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the cassingle of this song issued as columbia 74330 contains a non-described version and it runs 4:18.....it is the same as the version from the import cd single with the exception that it fades out quickly from 4:13 to 4:18 while the import cd single fades slowly out to 4:23.............also..........the cassingle version very subtly mutes (edits), during the fade out, mariah saying "thank you" at the 4:15 mark and her laughter at the 4:16 mark.........the question is...do the 2 cd versions in the db that state to have the 45/single version contain these things or are they edited out like the import cd single.............also...........does the commercial 45 contain these or are they edited out there too.........
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Ed - the 45 has the same version as the cassette single, which is to say you don't hear her say thank you at the end...
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i just asked an ebay seller, who has the promo cd single for sale, and he claims it's the edited version.....i will need to buy it to confirm....before i do that, does anyone have the promo cd single for this song????
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Ed, you asked about whether the "thank you" and laughter are edited out of the 2 cd's that state 45 version and the answer is no they are not edited out.
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ok, thx for that bit of info...........so those entries should be amended to state neither 45 or lp version.........the only place to find the correct version is on the promo cd single....
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Damn it! It never ends! [bangs head against wall]
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i will buy the promo cd single and report back my findings.....
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You can save your money, Ed. I just checked TM's library, and it's the (4:18) version with no stage banter at the end. It sounds like the correct single version is on the promo CD, as that was likely the source for TM's disc.
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This was also commercially reissued as a CD single in the US in the late 1990s, as part of a CD single series called "Platinum Hits," but I didn't buy it, and it's now hard to come by. There's one on Half.com for $2.95, but when you click on it it says "out of stock."
I don't know if it had the exact cassingle edit or not, but it did duplicate the A/B side of the cassingle, in titles, anyway.
I remember "Here Comes the Hotstepper" was a part of this late 1990s series, as were several other Mariah titles. But they're all out of print now.
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Brian W. wrote:
This was also commercially reissued as a CD single in the US in the late 1990s, as part of a CD single series called "Platinum Hits," but I didn't buy it, and it's now hard to come by. There's one on Half.com for $2.95, but when you click on it it says "out of stock."
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What's interesting about that is the song was never on a commercial CD single when it was first out. According to Billboard, it was cassette and vinyl only.
Just as an aside, I always wondered about '90s singles that were certified gold. Since vinyl sales were minimal, does that mean that most of the sales came from cassette singles? Since gold was 500,000 - that could mean something like 450,000 cassingle sales, and 50,000 on vinyl.
Personally, I don't know of anybody who really bought them, and I never see any at record shows (not that I'd really want to, as I'm not really a fan of that format). I still find it surprising that they were as popular as they were. I don't think they stand up over time and probably won't be as long lasting as a vinyl or CD single.
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Just wanted to clarify what I meant: I've got a few cassette singles and the quality just isn't there. The tape makes clunking sounds when it plays and there are noticable dropouts on a couple of them. I think I'd be best to dub them to another tape. I just don't think they were meant to be long lasting, whereas a vinyl or CD single can last a long time if you take good care of it.
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i agree......cassingles were a poor format....the do not hold up well over time......i have nearly eaver cassingle from the 1990's......about 1500 cassingles....the biggest problem is that they run fast compared to their cd counterparts....
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Brian W. wrote:
This was also commercially reissued as a CD single in the US in the late 1990s, as part of a CD single series called "Platinum Hits," but I didn't buy it, and it's now hard to come by. There's one on Half.com for $2.95, but when you click on it it says "out of stock."
I don't know if it had the exact cassingle edit or not, but it did duplicate the A/B side of the cassingle, in titles, anyway. |
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The reissue CD single is the exact same as the cassette single.
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Thanks, Paul. I'll have to hunt for one in Vancouver B.C. when I'm up there next month.
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torcan wrote:
I always wondered about '90s singles that were certified gold. Since vinyl sales were minimal, does that mean that most of the sales came from cassette singles? Since gold was 500,000 - that could mean something like 450,000 cassingle sales, and 50,000 on vinyl.
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Well, CD singles have been around since '87, so a lot of the sales stats come from them. But cassette singles were fairly popular for a while... "Ice Ice Baby" and Xscape's "Just Kickin' It" both shipped a million, and they were only released as a cassette singles.
Warren G.'s "Regulate" actually scanned 1.2 million Soundscan copies, I'm told, and that also was only available as a cassette single.
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Back in Napster's early days, I downloaded an apparent *studio* version of "I'll Be There". Is this available commercially anywhere?
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Brian W. wrote:
Well, CD singles have been around since '87, so a lot of the sales stats come from them. But cassette singles were fairly popular for a while... "Ice Ice Baby" and Xscape's "Just Kickin' It" both shipped a million, and they were only released as a cassette singles.
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Both of those singles were popular on 12" vinyl, so I bet a lot of those sales came from that format.
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eric_a wrote:
Brian W. wrote:
Well, CD singles have been around since '87, so a lot of the sales stats come from them. But cassette singles were fairly popular for a while... "Ice Ice Baby" and Xscape's "Just Kickin' It" both shipped a million, and they were only released as a cassette singles.
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The RIAA certifies 12-inch singles separately, so those wouldn't be a part of their Platinum certification.
Plus, I've seen SoundScan figures for some popular 12-inch singles, and most are in the 5,000 to 10,000 range. Pretty much the only people that were buying 12-inch vinyl singles in the '90s were professional DJs.
Cassette singles were really quite popular during that time.
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Would anyone be able to help me out and provide this single version?
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Underground Dub wrote:
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of which song?
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