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mainrhythm MusicFan
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Yea, I'd also like to know about their sound quality before spending the $$.
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budaniel MusicFan
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The Larry Levan mix is just painful. The heavy emphasis on bass drags the song down. I've always preferred the Jellybean mix.
The Jellybean mix is on a Unidisc CD single from back in the 90s that also included Heaven Must be Missing an Angel by Tavares.
The mix on the 12"/80s LOVE compilation is an ENTIRELY different mix. It has an acapella intro and completely out of control bass in the mix--I actually think it may be some sort of re-edit of the Larry Levan mix because it has a lot of the same percussion fills as well. Unfortunately, the 12"/80s series never offers any kind of liner notes or credits, so I don't know where they dug this mix up.
Edited by budaniel on 11 November 2010 at 3:37pm
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Wanted to bring this topic back as Hykker was kind
enough to send a dub of the 3:49 short solo version.
According to Steve, "Both long solo and short solo run
exactly the same length, and are identical until 2:39
where the short solo returns to vocals, the instrumental
bridge continues on the long solo."
Thought I would take the LP version to match the short
solo. If you remove from 2:37.4 to 2:54.389 of the LP
version and fade the LP version at the end on "I can
Dream" at 3:49, everything matches up.
So, is the short solo the same as the commercial 45
length? If not, then are the 3:49 versions available
already just the LP version faded early?
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eriejwg MusicFan
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I just came across another thread that
talks about this song. It appears the
short solo version is an edit and is
unique to the DJ 45 Whereas the
existing 3:49 versions in the database
are actually the LP version faded
early. If you want the short solo
version, it is editable from the LP
version.
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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budaniel wrote:
The Larry Levan mix is just painful. The heavy emphasis on bass drags the song down. I've always preferred the Jellybean mix.
The Jellybean mix is on a Unidisc CD single from back in the 90s that also included Heaven Must be Missing an Angel by Tavares.
The mix on the 12"/80s LOVE compilation is an ENTIRELY different mix. It has an acapella intro and completely out of control bass in the mix--I actually think it may be some sort of re-edit of the Larry Levan mix because it has a lot of the same percussion fills as well. Unfortunately, the 12"/80s series never offers any kind of liner notes or credits, so I don't know where they dug this mix up.
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From what I can now gather from budaniel, MMathews, and Mainrhythm, there are 3 extended versions of "I Can Dream About You"
* Jellybean Mix 7:31 (available on Unidisc CD single)
* Larry Levan Mix 5:58 (available on vinyl only)
* John Morales Mix (also called "M&M Extended Remix") 7:39 (available on at least 2 CDs - "Dance Classics Best Of Vol. 1" (2 CD set, Universal), from Netherlands, which I have and 12"/80s Love - 3 CD set, Family Recordings, market by Universal Records)
I like the Jellybean and John Morales mixes pretty evenly (although I lowered the bass on the Morales mix because I agree with budaniel that is was too loud. After remastering, though, I found this mix quite enjoyable).
Does anyone have the Unidisc CD single of the Jellybean mix and perhaps can send me a WAV? If not, can anyone provide more details, like label #, the way the CD single is titled (or even a link to it)? I'd sure love to get this on CD or WAV.
The Larry Levan mix (which is definitely different from the John Morales/M&M Extended Remix) is my least favorite and agree with budaniel and MMathews about that!
UPDATE: I just found the CD single on ebay and purchased it, so I don't need the catalog #, description (or a WAV.)
Edited by EdisonLite on 18 June 2018 at 11:06pm
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Oh and does anyone know when the John Morales mix (M&M Extended Remix) was first released or recorded? My 3CD set gives one line of credit for this recording saying (P) 1884 UMG Recordings, and it doesn't sound like a '90s-made remix, which often has much more modern sounds. It definitely sounds like it's of its era. The Discogs page for 12"/Love 2-CD set is where I found the remix credit of "Remix - John Morales" and "M&M Extended Mix" with a time of 7:38 listed, which matches up timewise to my "Dance Classics" CD set. And that version has the acapella intro that budaniel describes. That's why, if I put 2 & 2 together, I believe I have the John Morales Remix (M&M Extended Mix) and it's from 1984/Universal ... although it's always possible that the credits in my booklet were referring to the original album/single recording.
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I dubbed my promo 45 of "I Can Dream About You," and as was mentioned earlier, it has a "Short Solo Version" and "Long Solo Version." Both sides have listed and actual times of 3:51. The "Short Solo Version" has an edit in the middle of the guitar solo, which removes 2:37 to 2:54. The edit is on the downbeat just before "woooah oooh ooooh." The fade of this version matches the LP's fade, whereas the "Long Solo Version" (aka stock 45 version) is merely an early fade of the LP length.
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MMathews MusicFan
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I was wanted to clarify that in 1984 MCA released TWO
different 12" Singles for this. I bought both of them.
1) MCA 23502 Side 1 had the 7:31 Jellybean mix. Side 2
contained a 4:23 vocal and 4:23 Instrumental.
2) MCA 23510 Side 1 had the Larry Levan 5:56 Mix and Side
2 had the above 7:31 Jellybean mix.
Gordon, the John Morales (M&M Mix) originated in 1985 on
the B-side of the UK 12" Single for "Get Outta Town" - a
song he recorded for the "Fletch" soundtrack. You can see
that listing here:
https://www.discogs.com/Dan-Hartman-Get-Outta-
Town/release/511426
An edit of the M&M Remix also appeared on the B-side of
the UK 45.
[Edit: I just heard the M&M mix for the first time on
You-tube. Like the Levan mix, it's not for me. I dislike
the extra percussion and echo. I'm sure these mixes sound
good in clubs. For listening, I prefer the Jellybean mix
because it's simply the song we know but extended.]
MM
Edited by MMathews on 18 June 2018 at 10:31pm
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Ron S MusicFan
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aaronk wrote:
I dubbed my promo 45 of "I Can Dream About You," and as
was mentioned earlier, it has a "Short Solo Version" and "Long Solo Version."
Both sides have listed and actual times of 3:51. The "Short Solo Version" has
an edit in the middle of the guitar solo, which removes 2:37 to 2:54. The edit
is on the downbeat just before "woooah oooh ooooh." The fade of this version
matches the LP's fade, whereas the "Long Solo Version" (aka stock 45
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Now did most stations play the fade or the Short Solo Version? I think I
remember only the fade.
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sriv94 MusicFan
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Ron S wrote:
Now did most stations play the fade or the Short Solo Version? I think I remember only the fade. |
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Most stations I remember played the Short Solo Version.
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aaronk wrote:
I noticed that the database doesn't have
the promo 45 info included (regarding the "sax solo"
version). Also, the US 12" single has a (4:23) listed
version on it. It would make sense that the (4:21)
versions on CD are probably this version. Can anyone
confirm?
Roscoe, regarding the video, I looked on YouTube and
Universal's official video for this states "Relaid Audio"
in the description. So, apparentely they replaced the
original video's audio track before posting on YouTube.
Another video on YouTube appears to be an exerpt from the
Streets Of Fire movie. I had never heard this
version, but it's not sung by Dan Hartman. It's sung by
the R&B group in the movie, who are called the Sorels.
I'm assuming that the original Dan Hartman video didn't
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Regarding the 4:23 version of Dan Hartman's I Can Dream
About You I recently bought a cd with this version.
It sounds like a radio edit verion of the Jellybean mix.
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