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Ron S wrote:
Crazy for You – The exact 45
version did not appear on CD until
the Madonna collection "Something to Remember" was
issued. It runs about
4:01, the same mix as the "Vision Quest" soundtrack
version, but fading some
ten seconds earlier. The Japanese "CD Single
Collection" uses the full 4:10
soundtrack version.
Just noticed that the digital album has the edited
version of the song instead
of the 4:01 version mentioned above. Why would they
change it? I have the
actual CD and it runs the true 4:01. |
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Well, I've since discovered that "Something to
Remember" CD version is faded to replicate the 45
version anyway. Yeah, I don't know why they do that
with digital albums sometimes.
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LunarLaugh wrote:
So the US 3" CD single does include
the remix with guitar
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Brian W. wrote:
Ron S wrote:
Crazy for
You – The exact 45
version did not appear on CD until
the Madonna collection "Something to Remember" was
issued. It runs about
4:01, the same mix as the "Vision Quest" soundtrack
version, but fading some
ten seconds earlier. The Japanese "CD Single
Collection" uses the full 4:10
soundtrack version.
Just noticed that the digital album has the edited
version of the song instead
of the 4:01 version mentioned above. Why would they
change it? I have the
actual CD and it runs the true 4:01. |
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Well, I've since discovered that "Something to
Remember" CD version is faded to replicate the 45
version anyway. Yeah, I don't know why they do that
with digital albums sometimes. |
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I believe the "Crazy For You" fade out on "Something To
Remember" actually starts a little bit later than the
fade on the actual single release. So it's nearly the
same.
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Can someone time the vinyl 45 of "Crazy For You"? My dj
copy runs (3:57) but everyone seems to think the real 45
time is (4:01).
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My stock copy of "Crazy for You" on Geffen from 1985 runs 3:57.
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Does anyone know what accounts for the 4-second
difference? Is it an earlier fade or a pitch difference?
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My recording, pitched to match the compact disc transfer featured on the Vision Quest soundtrack isn't completely silent until 3:58.
After Madonna's extended lead "I'm crazy for you babaaaaa-aaa-aa-aaaaaay", the last thing you hear at the tail of the fade is the conclusion of the backing "aaah-aaah" vocals.
The version on her Something To Remember compilation released in 1995 is definitely a longer and newly created fade for unknown reasons.
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Have a 3:27 edit from 2000 that I can't place for Music by Madonna. Anyone know what edit or CD this is from?
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PopArchivist wrote:
| Have a 3:27 edit from 2000 that I can't place for Music by Madonna. Anyone know what edit or CD this is from? |
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Not super helpful without any further details and, if you've obtained any of these edits via peer-to-peer networks at any time over the past two decades, it's entirely possible they are fake or "fan made" edits shared widely and unofficially there.
"Music" was famously leaked a few months ahead of the official single. Madonna was pregnant, so the song and video were finalized well in advance of the late Summer 2000 release so she could film the video early. This could have also been a promotional gimmick to build anticipation for the song, but who knows.
Anyway, the leaked version was low quality but basically the same as the released master, only it had a clipped intro and a truncated ending. "Hey Mister DJ...put a record on" became just "-DJ.... put a record on", and it was the same as the released version up until an extra repeat of the final chorus (edited out of the released master) before an abrupt stop or fade at just after, depending on the file you downloaded.
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PS - It's hard to believe it's been 20 years since "Music" was released.
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Underground Dub wrote:
Not super helpful without any further details and, if you've obtained any of these edits via peer-to-peer networks at any time over the past two decades, it's entirely possible they are fake or "fan made" edits shared widely and unofficially there.
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After some considerable research it is from an August 2000 promo only source, the main reason why I have it. That means it is legitimate.
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Promo-Only-Mainstream-Radio- August-2000/release/10695452
Generally files in my collection come from some CD or 45 source from this time period not from Napster or dead peer to peer groups. In this case someone had it in their collection and shared it personally with me in the year 2020 and the edit abruptly ends, it's lossy. I don't do peer-to-peer and neither did the person who sent it who worked in radio. You can easily spot a fan made or fake this isn't it.
Whether that CD is lossless in quality or not is a question I can't answer right now. The mp3 did exist back then so it is possible to have a lossy edit on a Cd.
Edited by PopArchivist on 24 July 2020 at 8:12am
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I have that Promo Only Mainstream Radio issue, and that's the only place I've ever come across "Music" that stops at the 3:27 mark. I do not think it was officially released that way by WB. I have no idea why PO decided to clip off the ending.
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I wanted to mention that Z100 and other NY stations in 1989 played Madonna's Like A Prayer 7 Inch Dance Edit if i remember correctly. I don't know if anyone heard it but talk about a mix that has been lost to time. I don't remember hearing the actual 45 version on the radio....
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I have two versions of "Like a Prayer" which came from the music libraries of New York City radio stations.
One version is 4:51, begins with a loud door closing sound (but I think they always cued it up past this, because I never remember hearing that on the air), has prominent drums, the lead gospel singer is off to one side in the stereo image, and it fades out very abruptly.
The other version is 3:59, very quickly fades in immediately before Madonna's vocal begins, her voice is not as up-front in the mix and it has more stereo reverb (but is not the QSound mix), the drums are different and not as prominent, the lead gospel singer is centered in the stereo image, and it also fades abruptly.
Obviously these are both custom early fades, but can anyone identify which versions/mixes of the song they came from?
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VWestlife wrote:
I have two versions of "Like a Prayer" which came from the music libraries of New York City radio stations.
One version is 4:51, begins with a loud door closing sound (but I think they always cued it up past this, because I never remember hearing that on the air), has prominent drums, the lead gospel singer is off to one side in the stereo image, and it fades out very abruptly.
The other version is 3:59, very quickly fades in immediately before Madonna's vocal begins, her voice is not as up-front in the mix and it has more stereo reverb (but is not the QSound mix), the drums are different and not as prominent, the lead gospel singer is centered in the stereo image, and it also fades abruptly.
Obviously these are both custom early fades, but can anyone identify which versions/mixes of the song they came from?
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I don't recall either of these versions. Are they on youtube anywhere?
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PopArchivist wrote:
I wanted to mention that Z100
and other NY stations in 1989 played Madonna's Like A
Prayer 7 Inch Dance Edit if i remember correctly. I
don't know if anyone heard it but talk about a mix
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Kiss 108 in Boston played it too. I recently re-
edited that 7" Dance Edit for the new station I'm
helping with (Big 101.3 in New Bedford MA). As much
as I wanted to run the whole thing as-is, the program
director wasn't keen on a 5:20 song with a 28-second
intro. After the 4:20 mark, that dance edit goes on
way too long to be radio friendly in 2020.
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VWestlife wrote:
I have two versions of "Like a
Prayer" which came from the music libraries of New
York City radio stations.
One version is 4:51, begins with a loud door closing
sound (but I think they always cued it up past this,
because I never remember hearing that on the air), has
prominent drums, the lead gospel singer is off to one
side in the stereo image, and it fades out very
abruptly.
The other version is 3:59, very quickly fades in
immediately before Madonna's vocal begins, her voice
is not as up-front in the mix and it has more stereo
reverb (but is not the QSound mix), the drums are
different and not as prominent, the lead gospel singer
is centered in the stereo image, and it also fades
abruptly.
Obviously these are both custom early fades, but can
anyone identify which versions/mixes of the song they
came from?
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The 4:51 version sounds like an early fade of the
Remix/Edit, as that is the only version with the lead
background vocalist off to one side. It also starts
abruptly with with Madonna's lead-in vocal (though
sounds like your version might cut out her "God?"
spoken at the very beginning).
The 3:59 version sounds like a late fade-in and early
fade-out of the 7" Version or 7" Version with Fade.
Edited by Brian W. on 30 November 2020 at 1:03pm
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How does the 5:04-ish '7" Version with Fade' promo 45 of "Like a Prayer" begin? With the electric guitar and door clang, or with the choir and organ?
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VWestlife wrote:
How does the 5:04-ish '7" Version
with Fade' promo 45 of "Like a Prayer" begin? With the
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With a shorter electric guitar than on the album
version, followed by the door clang.
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Brian W.
First off, Thanks for the OP!
This is a huge thread to try and take in all at once. I'll be back to it frequently to see how some of my singles stack up with the data listed here. Also, thanks to everyone else who has chimed in over the years adding content.
I'm getting better at searching for topics that have been discussed before. There really is a lot of good information to be had here.
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