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I'll do my best. From the original 5:16 version, the
version on promo only eliminates the vocals at the
beginning before the music starts and just has the music
intro before the "hey hey hey" kicks in at the :14 mark.
There is no overlap of music and vocals like the original.
The ending ends with "what's going on" and then cold ending
with slight fade. This was the version I heard in major
market radio (Boston/NY) back then.
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Check your PM Promojunkie.
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Paul Haney wrote:
I suppose it's possible that the local station was playing the (4:14) version, but I
seem to recollect that what they played pretty much matched what was on the
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I can't attest to where the NYC radio stations got things but my college played the 4:14 because I remember trying to find a cd promo for it at Tower Records in Manhattan while going to NYU and could not find it. The video you showed isnt anything close to what I remember and the long versions on the cd maxi are not it either.
It wasn't until I was in Brooklyn for the weekend visiting my Ave U Compact Disc Shoppe that he pointed out to me it was on the latest NOW UK comp. I bought the comp and played the hell out of it.
This promo only stuff is a first for me, never knew it even existed on it or they put it out.
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When I get the chance, I'll listen to the cassette single and see what it sounds like (it's been about 28 years,
since I last listened to it!).
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Interestingly, the Promo Only track list specifically says "Promo Only Edit" for "What's Up." This means they created their own edit, so it's likely exclusive to that disc.
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aaronk wrote:
| Interestingly, the Promo Only track list specifically says "Promo Only Edit" for "What's Up." This means they created their own edit, so it's likely exclusive to that disc. |
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That also means the version on the cassette is exclusive to that cassette and never made CD....
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Paul Haney wrote:
When I get the chance, I'll listen to the cassette single and see what it sounds like (it's been about 28 years,
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If you can spot whether it sounds like the youtube videos which run about the same time let us know. Thanks!
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PopArchivist wrote:
Paul,If you can spot whether it
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I'm hoping to get over to the collection on the way home
today to check it out.
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I dubbed my cassette single this morning. It's a quick early fade of the 4 B's Mix. Fade from 3:47 to 3:55, and there you have it.
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aaronk wrote:
I dubbed my cassette single this morning. It's a quick early fade of the 4 B's Mix.
Fade from 3:47 to 3:55, and there you have it. |
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You just saved me a trip. Thanks, Aaron!
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And just for the record, I double-checked our original Pop Annual time and it was (3:56), NOT (3:46).
I have now amended it to (3:55) per Aaron's timing.
Edited by Paul Haney on 10 August 2022 at 8:51am
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I am confused as to what the official Billboard cassette
single timing on the Interscope label really is. Earlier
in this thread it was reported to be 4:55 and now Paul
Haney is saying that the Record Research cassette single on
another label is the official single and is a DJ Miko
remix. What gives here?
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Pat Downey wrote:
I am confused as to what the official
Billboard cassette single timing on the Interscope label
really is. Earlier in this thread it was reported to be
4:55 and now Paul Haney is saying that the Record
Research cassette single on another label is the official
single and is a DJ Miko remix. What gives here?
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Pat, I can see where there's confusion. However, we are
discussing two separate chart singles.
"What's Up" by 4 Non Blondes hit #14 in 1993 and indeed
runs (4:55).
"What's Up" by DJ Miko hit #58 in 1994 and that's the one
we've been discussing here lately.
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Got it now!
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Pat Downey wrote:
I am confused as to what the official Billboard cassette
single timing on the Interscope label really is. Earlier
in this thread it was reported to be 4:55 and now Paul
Haney is saying that the Record Research cassette single on
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I apologize should have started a separate thread. In the future if the song is the same but the artist is different I think that is the way to go.
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Re: the DJ Miko version, on Discogs, there are two cassette singles. One says it has these tracks:
3:47 Extended Clap Attack
3:50 Night Ground Mix
The other says it has these tracks:
3:47 4 B's Mix
3:50 Extended Clap Attack
Is the music on the tapes the same, or are those tracklists accurate? (notwithstanding the fact that they are not full-length versions)
FWIW, the UK CD single version is the "Radio Edit" which is the 4 B's Mix, minus a 14-second section at 2:24 (cut on the downbeat so the vocal resumes there), and faded early, reaching silence at 4:13 (previous posts said 4:14 but when I trim leading silence it hits total silence at 4:13.25). The NOW 28 CD fades to silence at 4:06. The Disco Queens: The 90s US CD from 1997 also has this edit and fades it a little shy of 3:59.
The Radio Edit was released in the UK in early August 1994, so it seems unlikely that it was getting US airplay before then. This would have been in the middle of its Hot 100 chart run.
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mjb50 wrote:
Re: the DJ Miko version, on Discogs, there are two cassette singles. One says it has these tracks:
3:47 Extended Clap Attack
3:50 Night Ground Mix
The other says it has these tracks:
3:47 4 B's Mix
3:50 Extended Clap Attack
Is the music on the tapes the same, or are those tracklists accurate? (notwithstanding the fact that they are not full-length versions)
FWIW, the UK CD single version is the "Radio Edit" which is the 4 B's Mix, minus a 14-second section at 2:24 (cut on the downbeat so the vocal resumes there), and faded early, reaching silence at 4:13 (previous posts said 4:14 but when I trim leading silence it hits total silence at 4:13.25). The NOW 28 CD fades to silence at 4:06. The Disco Queens: The 90s US CD from 1997 also has this edit and fades it a little shy of 3:59.
The Radio Edit was released in the UK in early August 1994, so it seems unlikely that it was getting US airplay before then. This would have been in the middle of its Hot 100 chart run. |
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When I was assembling my jukebox of 45's and hit radio versions I think there was a discussion and the 3:48 is what I think I settled on. If I recall its the promo only edit, which was made from the CD promo. The 3:55 is the time on the cassette tape. Its one of the only instances in the 90's where a cd promo did not have the right one. The other one is Black Box - Strike It Up (1991), which times in at 3:24 and for which Aaron had to recreate it. Outside of three instances not aware of any situation where 90's Hot 100 hits are not available on CD. Hope that helps. There's A Party Going On in 1990 by Yvonne is available as a digital download (no cd promo).
Edited by PopArchivist on 25 October 2024 at 7:34pm
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