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Posted: 28 July 2005 at 12:13am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

After doing some research on Lita Ford's two big hits, "Kiss Me Deadly" and "Close My Eyes Forever" (duet with Ozzy Osbourne), I found that there is more than one version for each.

I'm pretty sure all promo and commercial 45s of "Close My Eyes Forever" have a version called "Remix." DJ copies of "Kiss Me Deadly" have both the LP Version and the Single Version, and both versions run (3:59). I'm not sure which (3:59) mix is included for commercial 45s.

A friend of mine has a promo CD single called "Lita's Big Ones" that has both the remix of "Close My Eyes Forever" and the single version of "Kiss Me Deadly." I'm working on getting a copy so that I can compare the differences between these versions and what's been released on compilations and full-length CDs.

The book does not list a version for either song, but it should probably at least list "LP version" next to Lita's debut album, Lita.
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Posted: 28 July 2005 at 10:00am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

I'm glad you brought this up, Aaron...

On the Hits of the 80's CD box set (Columbia River Entertainment Group 310001) listed in the 10th edition, Pat comments on "Kiss Me Deadly" as follows: (special radio version with the edited lyric "didn't get a break" instead of "didn't get laid").

Does anyone know if this alternate lyric appeared on the commercial 45?
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Posted: 29 July 2005 at 8:06am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

My copy of the commercial 45 has the "didn't get laid" lyric.
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Posted: 10 September 2005 at 9:57am | IP Logged Quote Moderator

I am surprised that this thread did not get more response. Here is what I have come up with - Close My Eyes Forever was indeed slightly remixed for 45 release so I have added the comment "LP mix" to all existing versions of that song on cd.

With regard to "Kiss Me Deadly" as board members have already discussed, the commercial single had the "didn't get laid" lyric as did the original dj vinyl 45's. My dj 45 says single version on one side with the "didn't get laid" lyric and the other side states "LP version" which also has the "didn't get laid" lyric. Both versions run 3:59 and I cannot discern any difference between what the vinyl 45 states is the "single version" and the "LP version" which is on the flip side. The dj maxi cd single titled "Lita's Big Ones" does have the edited version with the lyric "didn't get a break".

Does anyone hear a difference between the commercial 45 and LP version of "Kiss Me Deadly"?

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Posted: 10 September 2005 at 10:26am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I have the version with the alternate lyric from the promo single and the original lyric version on a compilation disc. Comparing those two, I don't hear any difference in the mix; however, I don't have the actual 45 and LP to compare (both with original lyrics).
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aaron....i've revived this thread......as i said in the first thread.....i CANNOT hear a difference between the cassingle version of "close my eyes forever" and the version from the cd "best of".......they sound identical to me.....

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Posted: 06 September 2006 at 12:11pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

According to the other thread, Andrew says that the Best Of CD has the remix, so you wouldn't hear a difference compared to your cassingle.
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Moderator wrote:

With regard to "Kiss Me Deadly" as board members have already discussed, the commercial single had the "didn't get laid" lyric as did the original dj vinyl 45's. My dj 45 says single version on one side with the "didn't get laid" lyric and the other side states "LP version" which also has the "didn't get laid" lyric. Both versions run 3:59 and I cannot discern any difference between what the vinyl 45 states is the "single version" and the "LP version" which is on the flip side.


Just had a promo 45 come in and wish I'd seen this before I ordered it. Both sides of my promo have the "didn't get laid" lyric. In this case, "single Version" doesn't mean "censored version!" So, I'm out $8.50- and will continue my search for the censored version! :)
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Posted: 07 November 2007 at 1:11pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Found a seller with the Lita's Big Ones for $7.95.
At least this way, I'll have the censored version of "Kiss Me Deadly" and the remix for "Close My Eyes Forever."

2 more off the list!
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Moderator wrote:
With regard to "Kiss Me Deadly" as board members have already discussed, the commercial single had the "didn't get laid" lyric as did the original dj vinyl 45's. My dj 45 says single version on one side with the "didn't get laid" lyric and the other side states "LP version" which also has the "didn't get laid" lyric. The dj maxi cd single titled "Lita's Big Ones" does have the edited version with the lyric "didn't get a break".
Pat, I have two different promo 45s for this song. One is the one you also have, on the standard RCA "cream colored" promo label, with one side stating "LP Version" (deadwax 6866-7-R-A), and is the same version that's on the commercial 45. The other side of the cream-colored promo 45 states "Single Version" (deadwax 6866-7-R-C), with, as you state, both sides including the "didn't get laid" lyric. However, my second promo 45 features a RCA white promo label. Again, the "LP Version" is on one one side of it, but the other side of THIS promo 45 states "Special Radio Version" (deadwax 6866-7-R-D-SP2), and includes the "didn't get a break" lyric. The listed time for this last version is also (3:59).

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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 2:00am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

WOW! There are THREE versions of "Kiss Me Deadly!" I just compared the promo 45 versions with the "Single Version" on one side and "LP Version" on the flip side. The "Single Version" on the promo 45 has the lyrics "I didn't get made," while the flip side (LP Version) has "I didn't get laid."

I haven't done a thorough comparison of the remainder of the song, but that's enough evidence to suggest three versions! Given that it says "Single Version," were there any commercial singles, vinyl or cassette, that have "I didn't get made," instead of "laid?"
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Posted: 13 May 2008 at 2:04am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

The "Special Radio Version" also changes the lyrics "I had a few beers / gettin' high" to "I had a few beers / gettin' wild." I had never noticed this until now.
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Anybody willing to guess which version was played most on top 40 radio across the United States?

It seems like I heard "made" before I heard "laid," but I don't remember of most stations switched over to "laid" or if it was just rock stations that played that version in later years.

Does anybody remember the "get a break" version getting airplay? I don't remember having heard that version EVER!

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The "didn't get a break" version got played here. I'm
pretty sure "American Top 40" also played that version.

I've got a Canadian promo 45 with "break" on one side
and "laid" on the other.
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What are the three different versions? I thought there are two only?


NightAire wrote:
Anybody willing to guess which version was played most on top 40 radio across the United States?


My guess is most stations played the "uncensored" version, while the "Special Radio Version" was specifically created for the Bible Belt. These lyrics are tame, even by 1988 standards. Probably the main reason the single did not go Top 10, while her duet with Ozzy did go Top 10... one of the worst songs ever recorded. That song is just unlistenable.
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Posted: 04 September 2019 at 8:50pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

The three versions are:

1) LP/45 version (with lyric "didn't get laid")
2) "Single Version" (as it is labeled on the promo 45; with lyric "didn't get made")
3) "Special Radio Version" (with lyric "didn't get a break")

I'd guess that the LP version got the most airplay, and I agree that the lyrics are pretty tame compared to other hits that were out around this time.

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aaronk wrote:
I'd guess that the LP version got the most airplay, and I agree that the lyrics are pretty tame compared to other hits that were out around this time.


The difference being that this time around it was a woman asserting her own sexuality and singing about having sex... or lack thereof. I know this is not part of this topic, but once again, further proof that airplay should have never been a component of the official U.S. singles chart. Many singles that sold reasonably well still flopped because radio refused to play them.
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Posted: 04 September 2019 at 9:06pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

"Kiss Me Deadly" peaked at #13 in Radio & Records, so I wouldn't say "radio refused to play it." That's not bad for a fairly hard rock song on a pop station. Here's what the higher 12 songs were the week that it peaked:

1 Together Forever - Rick Astley
2 One More Try - George Michael
3 Foolish Beat - Debbie Gibson
4 Dirty Diana - Michael Jackson
5 Make It Real - Jets
6 The Valley Road - Bruce Hornsby & The Range
7 The Flame - Cheap Trick
8 Circle In The Sand - Belinda Carlisle
9 Everything Your Heart Desires - Hall & Oates
10 Mercedes Boy - Pebbles
11 Alphabet St. - Prince
12 New Sensation - INXS

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Posted: 04 September 2019 at 9:39pm | IP Logged Quote Loveland

It peaked at No. 12 on the Hot 100. This is a song that should have been a Top 5 hit, it was extremely poppy and dancey, and it was one of the many sounds of 1988. It's shocking that it didn't hit the Top 10, while her duet with Ozzy, a song that, whether you like it or not, is not very commercial.

My educated guess is that certain radio stations didn't play it as much, and probably spun it a few times a week, if at all. I would also guess this is the reason why the label had to submit an additional Special Radio Version. Lita's new vocals were clearly pasted onto the original recording.
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Bumping up for Gene.
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