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Steve Carras
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Posted: 20 February 2025 at 9:38pm | IP Logged Quote Steve Carras

This is one of many "banned" edits that their performers
just won't allow,same with so many others.Just wish that
the owners would release it.I still like both album and
singles of all BTO songs, don't get me wrong, but I'm just
a completist..:)

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Posted: 21 February 2025 at 6:46am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

Not sure what you mean by "banned edits the performers won't allow". Are you referring to the 3:13 promo edit?
Most promo edits, regardless of artist were never intended to be made available to the public in the first place, simply a method to make a
song more attractive to radio, whether for length, language, maybe a hotter mix.

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Posted: 21 February 2025 at 10:19am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Nowadays, Sirius, iHeart and other companies play the LP
versions pretty much for the older songs as it's what the
public is used to as they stream those songs.

There are still radio edits for current and recent songs,
offered through subscription services like Promo Only.

I have always preferred the single/45 versions and radio
edits for the older songs. After all, isn't that why we are
here on this forum to discover where to find them? :)

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Posted: 21 February 2025 at 8:27pm | IP Logged Quote Steve Carras

Hykker wrote:
Not sure what you mean by "banned edits
the performers won't allow". Are you referring to the
3:13 promo edit?
Most promo edits, regardless of artist were never
intended to be made available to the public in the first
place, simply a method to make a
song more attractive to radio, whether for length,
language, maybe a hotter mix.


I was being facetious,I mean the groups never allow the
singles edits... the hit single edit did exist
originally, in spring 1974.
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Posted: 21 February 2025 at 9:06pm | IP Logged Quote LunarLaugh

The commercial 45 was the same length as the LP.
DJ promos contained the LP version and the 3:13 edit.

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Posted: 22 February 2025 at 9:28am | IP Logged Quote Steve Carras

LunarLaugh wrote:
The commercial 45 was the same length
as the LP.
DJ promos contained the LP version and the 3:13 edit.

thanks.

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Posted: 22 February 2025 at 11:40am | IP Logged Quote CountryPD

eriejwg wrote:
Nowadays, Sirius, iHeart and other
companies play the LP versions pretty much for the older songs
as it's what the public is used to as they stream those songs.

There are still radio edits for current and recent songs,
offered through subscription services like Promo Only.

I have always preferred the single/45 versions and radio
edits for the older songs. After all, isn't that why we are
here on this forum to discover where to find them? :)


My take is that there are several issues at play regarding single
edits:

One is that many of the programmers at those outlets featuring
older music may not even be aware of the existence of single
edits. Most may not have been alive or are old enough to
remember when the song was a hit so they never heard it back
in the day. For some it may also be a combination of don't know
& don't care.

Another factor is the availability of the single edits digitally or on
CD. If a single edit is not readily accessible many programmers
will just use the most easily available source rather than search
out the original single hit version or go to length of acquiring a
disc dub. Even when a single edit is available on CD they often
choose to ignore it.

Too many music programmers are musically unwise today. Not
to mention some are running multiple channels or radio stations
and do not dig into the weeds to be sure they are using the
correct version of a song actually played on the radio. Some
programmers just may not care. After all, how many people are
TRULY knowledgeable about multiple genres of music?

Then there are a some programmers that do not believe in
single edits and feel that the album versions are the only ones
that should be aired. Some may have roots in album rock radio
where there was always a distain for single edits.

Those are but a few of the reasons why single edits may not be
played.

A local AM station in my area airs a syndicated oldies format.
They play the LP versions of Spinning Wheel and 25 or 6 To 4.
Annoying.
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