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Posted: 13 March 2007 at 9:23pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Jim was kind enough to pass this information along to me, and I didn't want to hoard it all to myself. This is the supplied info on his promo CD singles for Boyz II Men "Motownphilly."

CD45-1336
1-Album Version (listed and actual 3:52)

CD45-1386
1-12" Version (Edited) (listed and actual 4:47)
2-7" Main (listed 3:52; actual 3:54)
3-Bonus Beats (listed 3:50; actual 3:49)
4-12" A (listed 5:50; actual 5:39)
5-12" Dub (listed 4:09; actual 4:07)
6-Quiet Storm (listed 4:06; actual 4:05)

Also, I have a version labeled "Single Edit without Rap" on my TM Century library. While I noticed this version is not on either one of Jim's promos, it must be an official version. The song is similar to the 12" Version / 7" Main, but it cuts all of the talking parts (rap) by Michael Bivins. It also strips out some of the "extra" samples found in the aforementioned remixes.

Does anyone own a promo CD with this version?
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Posted: 25 August 2009 at 11:42pm | IP Logged Quote jimct
Aaron, I didn't realize that this was a sort of a "repeat query" by you until I'd already re-researched it, and then pulled this old thread up - you must REALLY want to uncover this "single edit without rap" version that you seem real confident was "official" in a major way, my good friend! Wish I could be of more help to you...

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Posted: 26 August 2009 at 7:37am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Sorry about that, Jim! I should've mentioned that info in the other thread.
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Posted: 22 April 2010 at 7:27pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
Just today, I was able to confirm the promo CD single existence of the elusive "Single Edit Without Rap" mix of "Motownphilly." Here are the details:

Motown PRD-90023
1. Single Edit (Without Rap) (3:17 listed)
2. LP Version (3:55 listed)
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 9:16am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
On the CD jacket and in the database, the now common Boyz II Men Cooleyhighharmony CD pressing (Motown 314530231) shows "Motownphilly" with the comment "remixed radio edit". Can anyone confirm if this version matches any of the tracks appearing on the promo CD singles?

Also, does anyone have a commercial single pressing of "Motownphilly" who can pass along the track listing and run time(s)? (Ed? Paul Haney?)
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 9:44am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
My commercial CD single, labeled on the spine as "Motownphilly (REMIX)" has the following:

CD5-MOTDS-4779
1. 12" Version (Edit) (4:47)
2. LP Version (3:52)
3. Quiet Storm (4:06)
4. 12" A (5:50 - actual 5:40)
5. 12" Dub (4:09 - actual 4:07)
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Posted: 24 April 2010 at 10:11am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Thanks, Aaron! According to my research, it appears the cassette single release features the "album version" as the lone track. All we need now is the run time info.

Boy, it never ceases to amaze me how so many of these early '90s hits with their multiple versions spread out over multiple formats have created a real MESS for us die-hard collectors to sort out!
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Posted: 25 May 2010 at 10:21pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Ok, I've finally obtained the cassette single timing info for Boyz II Men's "Motownphilly", thanks to help from my good friend Edtop40. The cassette single run time is 3:53.
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Posted: 06 September 2010 at 9:10pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
If I may bring up one more question regarding "Motownphilly"...

Is there any difference between the album version and the 7" Main version from the CD45-1386 promo CD single, or are the two identical?
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Posted: 07 September 2010 at 5:02am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
The 7" Main is a remix that is not even close to the album version.
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Posted: 20 April 2011 at 6:54pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
I just obtained an original copy of the Motownphilly promo I had long been searching for. Here are the full details:

Motown PRD-90023
1. Single Edit (Without Rap) (3:17 listed; 3:21 actual)
2. LP Version (3:55 listed; 3:52 actual)

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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 8:00pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
To repeat a query I made a couple of years ago, does anyone know if the "remixed radio edit" of "Motownphilly" appearing on the now common Boyz II Men Cooleyhighharmony CD pressing (Motown 314530231) matches any of the tracks appearing on the promo or CD singles?

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Posted: 09 July 2014 at 10:14pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
The "remixed radio edit" on the reissue of Cooleyhighharmony does not match any of the tracks from the promo CD. The version on this CD is a house remix, and isn't even close to the remixes that were on the promo and commercial CD singles.

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Posted: 10 July 2014 at 7:13pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
I also looked through all the promo and commercial single entries on Discogs for "Motownphilly" and I don't see anything about a "remix radio edit" on any of them. So perhaps a brief database mention of this version not appearing on any promo single release might be useful here.
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Posted: 11 July 2014 at 7:48pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Question: Can the "single edit (without rap) edit be
recreated from the LP version?
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Posted: 11 July 2014 at 9:18pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
No, it's a remix similar to the 7" Main, but with all the spoken and rap
parts removed. It also has fewer samples and overdubs compared to
the 7" Main.

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aaronk wrote:
I just obtained an original copy of the Motownphilly promo I had long been searching for. Here are the full details:

Motown PRD-90023
1. Single Edit (Without Rap) (3:17 listed; 3:21 actual)
2. LP Version (3:55 listed; 3:52 actual)


So did anyone hear the single edit back in 1991?

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Posted: 17 September 2020 at 7:24pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
In the late ‘90s, the top 40 station where I worked played the song as a
“gold.” We played the Single Edit Without Rap directly from a TM
Century GoldDisc. I do not remember, however, if this mix was played
as a current on my old station.

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Posted: 18 September 2020 at 2:00pm | IP Logged Quote prisdeej
aaronk wrote:
In the late ‘90s, the top 40 station where I worked played the song as a
“gold.” We played the Single Edit Without Rap directly from a TM
Century GoldDisc. I do not remember, however, if this mix was played
as a current on my old station.


I share this sentiment. In the late 90's WFHN would play the Single Edit Without Rap, but I
swear that's the first time I heard it.

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Posted: 18 September 2020 at 2:51pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg
Seems like I've always heard the LP version but now that
I've heard the Single Version Without Rap, I actually
prefer that version.

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