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Posted: 09 November 2005 at 4:37pm | IP Logged Quote Paul Esch

In the index, the list for this song shows all LP versions based on
the fact that the song is part of a medley with "Get Away". But the
version that is on The Chicago Story: Complete Greatest Hits
(Rhino 73606) is the 45 version. I thought the 45 version was just
an early fade of the medley. Are there any other differences?
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Posted: 09 November 2005 at 6:40pm | IP Logged Quote Moderator

No there are no other differences but it looks like I had better get "The Chicago Story" and review it!

Actually I just went to search for "The Chicago Story" and could not find a title like that which is still in print. How old is this cd?

Edited by Moderator on 09 November 2005 at 6:45pm


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Posted: 09 November 2005 at 7:53pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

"Chicago Story" is an import, Paul. Pat doesn't list imports in his database.
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Posted: 09 November 2005 at 8:00pm | IP Logged Quote Paul Esch

It's from 2002, but I don't know if you'll be able to officially use it for
the index, as the last line of credits on the back says "Warner Music
Manufacturing Europe" and has an "LC" logo as well. It is a handy 2-
disc set, claiming to include single versions of "Will You Still Love
Me," "Look Away," "What Kind Of Man Would I Be?" "Love Me
Tomorrow" and "You're Not Alone."
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Posted: 10 November 2005 at 8:21am | IP Logged Quote sriv94

Paul Esch wrote:
It is a handy 2-disc set, claiming to include single versions of "Will You Still Love
Me," "Look Away," "What Kind Of Man Would I Be?" "Love Me
Tomorrow" and "You're Not Alone."


Those single versions are available on the domestic Very Best Of CD as well. Of course, the VBOC disc did use the "Hard To Say I'm Sorry/Get Away" medley (I found the faded single on an import David Foster compilation).

Speaking of Chicago, I asked about this a while ago, so let me try again. Anyone here know the difference between the 45 and LP versions of "(I've Been) Searchin' So Long" (I don't think I've ever heard the single)?

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Posted: 11 March 2007 at 9:40pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Pat:

I recently took "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" from a CD source and replicated the fade exactly as it is heard on the commercial 45 using my digital audio editing software. In the process, I timed the 45 run time to be 3:51. The database currently lists the actual time at 3:48. You might want to check into this and update the database as needed.
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 6:01am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

Todd, I only have the dj copy of this song "Hard To Say I'm Sorry" but both the mono and stereo sides run (3:48)
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 9:37am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Pat

As you know, the LP version of "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" transitions into an uptempo jam called "Get Away". I asked Ed to e-mail an mp3 of his commercial 45 copy so I could check the time. When listening closely to the final few seconds on the commercial 45, you can actually hear the opening drum roll that commences the "Get Away" portion of the song before the 45 completely fades out. Do you hear the drum roll at the tail end of your DJ copy, Pat? If not, then I'd say it's safe to conclude the commercial 45 indeed runs several seconds longer than your DJ copy.
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Posted: 12 March 2007 at 6:41pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey

That must be the difference Todd as I do not hear any drum roll during the fadeout on the dj copy. The matrix number is a very long number but it does have "dj" etched in it so I am convinced there are two different pressings of this 45.

Does anyone have the stated running time on the commercial 45?

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"Hard To Say I'm Sorry" also appears on the "Summer Lovers" soundtrack (Warner Bros. 1-23695) LP, that does not appear to be released on CD. The version on that LP runs 3:48, although it is listed at 3:50. Dan
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Posted: 13 March 2007 at 10:14am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Pat:

Ed reported to me that the stated running time on his commercial 45 copy is 3:42.
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Posted: 20 March 2007 at 10:25pm | IP Logged Quote TomDiehl1

The stated run time on the label is 3:42. I timed my copy out to 3:50 (it may have been 3:51 but my VG+ 45 played rather noisy and anything past 3:50 was totally taken over by surface noise) and it does have the drums at the end of the fade out. Matrix is: 7-29979-ZCA-1673-S-SR1 SP S-2 (that may also be 5P 5-2, it's hard to tell as the writing is rather faint for those parts).

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