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Posted: 27 May 2016 at 6:52pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Hard To Find 45s On CD, Volume 15: 80’s Essentials & Beyond (Eric Records 11534)

1. Red Red Wine - UB40 (1988 version)
2. It Must Have Been Love - Roxette
3. I'm Gonna Be 500 Miles - The Proclaimers
4. Take Your Time (Do It Right) Part 1 - The S.O.S. Band [Commercial 45 Version Debut]
5. Steppin' Out - Joe Jackson [Rare 45 Version]
6. They Don't Know - Tracey Ullman [Rare On CD]
7. Tarzan Boy - Baltimora [Rare 45 Version]
8. We Don't Talk Anymore - Cliff Richard [45 Version Debut]
9. Moonlight Shadow - Mike Oldfield [Top 5 UK Hit]
10. Nothing's Gonna Change My Love For You - Glenn Medeiros
11. One More Try - Timmy T
12. Joey - Concrete Blonde
13. Nightshift - Commodores
14. Pass The Dutchie - Musical Youth
15. Saturday Love - Cherrelle with Alexander O'Neal [Rare 45 Version]
16. Would I Lie To You? - Charles & Eddie [Rare Radio Edit]
17. After All (Love Theme From “Chances Are”) - Cher & Peter Cetera [Rare Radio Edit]
18. Into The Night - Benny Mardones [Rare Radio Edit]
19. Right Here Waiting - Richard Marx
20. I'd Do Anything For Love But I Won't Do That - Meat Loaf [Rare 45 Version]

Release Date: June 17, 2016
For sound samples and ordering info: www.ericrecords.com



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Posted: 28 May 2016 at 6:21am | IP Logged Quote Hykker

Interesting collection. Nice that someone is making the
radio edits available.
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Posted: 29 May 2016 at 2:16pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

I wonder if "Take Your Time (Do It Right)" is a disc dub or
if they were able to find the master tape. That UK company
that reissued all the S.O.S. Band remasters a couple years
ago couldn't find a tape source.
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Posted: 29 May 2016 at 4:49pm | IP Logged Quote Plastic Steel

Brian W. wrote:
I wonder if "Take Your Time (Do It Right)" is a disc dub or
if they were able to find the master tape. That UK company
that reissued all the S.O.S. Band remasters a couple years
ago couldn't find a tape source.


It would indeed be great if someone took their time (and did it right).
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Posted: 29 May 2016 at 8:32pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

You'll be pleased to know, we did it right.

It was pretty apparent the Tabu owners did not have this
tape. So it made sense the master tape never moved from
where it was stored in the early 80's. At the time Tabu
was distributed by CBS. We had Universal contact Sony and
provided them the matrix# of the 45. The tape was there,
untouched since 1980. Sony kindly dubbed the tape. It was
in pristine condition (I assume it had to be baked).
Sometimes all you have to do is ask.
There ya have it.
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Posted: 29 May 2016 at 9:02pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Thanks for that info Mark. Another reason to order this release (plus volume 16 as well).

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Posted: 30 May 2016 at 2:01am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

That's fantastsic news, Mark!

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Thanks Mark!

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Posted: 06 June 2016 at 12:36pm | IP Logged Quote Plastic Steel

I'm a little confused by the (1988 version) of "Red Red Wine." I always assumed the 3:01 edit (an early fade of the version on the parent LP Labour of Love, I believe) was released in 1983 on 45, but in 1988 they issued the (original 1983) LP version on 45 (which runs 5:21 or thereabouts). Was the '88 release a remix? Or is this just to imply it's the full 5:21 version?

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It's the latter. They are wanting to clarify that it's the version that was the hit in 1988, which is indeed the 1983 full LP version.

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Posted: 06 June 2016 at 1:44pm | IP Logged Quote Plastic Steel

Ah, gotcha. Thanks. I figured this was the case. I have this song on an A&M Memories/Collectables 45 and so wasn't 100% positive about the '88 stock 45 version, but I do recall that they played the LP/45 version in my radio market back in the fall of 1988.
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Posted: 07 June 2016 at 4:17pm | IP Logged Quote MMathews

Yup, exactly what Aaron said. We just wanted to clarify it was the '88 45 version not the '83 45 version.

BTW, huge props and thanks to Jim Abbott and Aaron Kannowski for their help and consultation putting these 2 CD's together. You will see them prominently in the credits!

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Comparing the short 1983 version to the LP, the "rap" that starts at
about 2:30 is removed. Instead, the short version goes to the
instrumental segment (found at about 1:33 and again at 4:00 of the LP).
I don't know if they did an overlap of those two segments or if they went
back to the multitracks, but it's not a straight edit.

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Thanks for the info! I just ordered both discs. :)
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Posted: 07 June 2016 at 6:41pm | IP Logged Quote Plastic Steel

aaronk wrote:
Comparing the short 1983 version to the LP, the "rap" that starts at
about 2:30 is removed. Instead, the short version goes to the
instrumental segment (found at about 1:33 and again at 4:00 of the LP).
I don't know if they did an overlap of those two segments or if they went
back to the multitracks, but it's not a straight edit.


You're right, of course. My bad. Sorry to muddy the waters. Too much red red wine, evidently.
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No apology necessary. By all means, keep drinking! And cheers!!!

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Posted: 08 June 2016 at 11:39am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

Mark was kind enough to send me an advance copy of this CD and I'm happy to say that the sound is uniformly excellent!

So nice to finally have the correct single version of "Take Your Time (Do It Right)" and the radio edit of "Into The Night" on an official CD. A nice selection of 20 songs (78 minutes) makes this a real bargain to boot.

Kudos to Bill, Mark, Walt and everybody else involved in this outstanding release (including our own Aaron, Ed and Jim).

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Of course Tabu didn't have the tape. They lost the
Sussex masters too (same owner).
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I received my copies of Vol. 15 and 16 this week. If you haven't already ordered these, I highly recommend that you do. Great selection of tracks, plenty of hard (if not impossible) to find tracks, and superb audio quality across the board. Thumbs up to Mark and everyone else involved in producing these discs.

One thing I did notice, regarding Baltimora's "Tarzan Boy" which appears on Vol 15. Until now, the only CD I owned which featured this song was O.S.T. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III. The version on Hard To Find 45s On CD Vol 15 was noticeably slower to my ears, and upon further investigation I concluded that it runs 1.55% slower than the version on O.S.T. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III. They both run the same length so the slower of the two is obviously faded earlier.

I'm assuming the version on Hard To Find 45s On CD Vol 15 runs the correct speed and length. So, is the O.S.T. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III version sped up for some reason? And does this warrant a note in the database?
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I remember this speed issue from many years ago.

The version on Sony Germany's 2-CD Pop And Wave Vol. 6 (1996) runs at 107.5 BPM. The version on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III soundtrack runs at 109.4 BPM. Same version, but different speeds, with a pretty big discrepancy. (I also have four EMI compilations from the UK and Australia with a completely different edit of the song, running about 3:25, and 108.8 BPM. Not sure what version was actually on the UK or Australian 45s.)

I'm about 80% sure that I checked the speed of the US 45, and I think it matched the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III soundtrack. The remaining 20% is because I don't have any written notes saying that I really checked it.

Can anyone else confirm, since my 80%-based-only-on-memory isn't really good enough here?

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