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Ron S
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Was there ever a 45 for this song? It is in a few CD's with a runtime of 4:17-
4:18. There is also a John "Jellybean" Benitez Mix that runs 3:45. Does anyone
know which one was played on the radio and which is the correct 45?
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No commercial 45 at the time for sure. I think most
stations played it off the Back To The Future
soundtrack album.
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Another one of those fantastic 80's airplay hits that was all over the radio but had no commercial 45. Easily a top 10 hit if they had gone the route of commercial release.
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No 45 RPM 7" single... in the United States. Apparently, there was in Japan and it was the Jellybean mix mentioned above.
The only promo listed for the United States was a 12" which appears to have had the LP version on it.
My audience requested this song this week! This group is where I always go first after getting a song suggestion.
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Ron S,
This goes in my "I swear I heard it on radio and it was a hit" file of songs that should have been 45's and were huge but never released commercially. Even I thought Into The Groove by Madonna was a top 10 hit simply because I heard it on the radio all the time. If the rules pre-1999 were what they are now on Billboard it would never be an issue. So many great songs never charted that fall into this exact situation.
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PopArchivist wrote:
Even I thought Into The Groove by
Madonna was a top 10 hit simply because I heard it on
the radio all the time.
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It was top ten in airplay in "Radio & Records," #6 for
two weeks, starting with the 6/28/85 issue.
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"Back In Time" was a Top 10 hit on both WLOL in
Minneapolis and WKTI in Milwaukee in late October 1985.
Chrysalis missed out on a sure-fire Top 10 hit with that
one.
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Paul Haney wrote:
Chrysalis missed out on a sure-fire Top
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I'm not sure "missed out" is the correct term...Lewis'
career was on fire from '84-87 with an almost unbroken
string of top 10 hits. Most likely the rationale was to
not cannibalize sales of his other singles during the
movie's run, and to increase the sales of the soundtrack LP
(assuming the LP was on Chrysalis).
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"The Power Of Love" was released as a single on Chrysalis. The
soundtrack, however, was on MCA. I wonder if, perhaps, due to
licensing arrangements neither MCA nor Chrysalis was permitted to
release "Back In Time" as a single.
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Hykker wrote:
I'm not sure "missed out" is the correct
term...Lewis' career was on fire from '84-87 with an
almost unbroken string of top 10 hits. Most likely the
rationale was to not cannibalize sales of his other
singles during the movie's run, and to increase the sales
of the soundtrack LP
(assuming the LP was on Chrysalis).
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The band was between albums at the time. The last single
from Sports ("Walking On A Thin Line") hit #18 in late
1984. The first single from Fore! ("Stuck With You") was
released in late July 1986. So, I don't think releasing
"Back In Time" as a single would've hurt them in the
least. At the time, more hit singles meant more album
sales (see "Thriller" and "Born In The USA").
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aaronk wrote:
"The Power Of Love" was released as a
single on Chrysalis. The soundtrack, however, was on MCA.
I wonder if, perhaps, due to licensing arrangementsneither
MCA nor Chrysalis was permitted to release "Back In Time"
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The US promo 12" single and the Japanese 45 for "Back In
Time" were both on Chrysalis at the time.
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Surely there must've been some legal or licensing reason they didn't release a commercial 45 in the US. It reminds me of how "Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin'" was only released on a Jermaine Jackson promo 12" single and later as a B-side.
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Didn't they also not release Huey's "Bad is Bad" earlier in 1985? I remember
them showing the video a lot on Friday Night Videos and MTV, but I don't even
think it debuted on the Billboard Rock chart...
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PopArchivist wrote:
Ron S,
This goes in my "I swear I heard it on radio and it was a hit" file of songs
that should have been 45's and were huge but never released commercially.
Even I thought Into The Groove by Madonna was a top 10 hit simply
because I heard it on the radio all the time. If the rules pre-1999 were what
they are now on Billboard it would never be an issue. So many great songs
never charted that fall into this exact situation.
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Funny how it wasn't released as a 45 yet it is on their Greatest Hits CD. I
loved the song and never understood why it wasn't released on a 45....and
Into The Groove was such a great song...pure Madonna and no 45? Another
song that is featured in a greatest hits album. I actually have this song on
two CDs. Madonna's Greatest Hits and the import CD single.
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Brian W. wrote:
It was top ten in airplay in "Radio & Records," #6 for
two weeks, starting with the 6/28/85 issue.
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Yes, but it never charted on The Hot 100 because it was never released as a 45 or 7 inch single. That's the whole point, it was never given a chance to supplement the high radio play with an actual available single. Until December 5, 1998 Billboard basically found these type of high airplay singles to be ineligible for the Hot 100 due to no "official" studio release.
The point I was making that in this day and age it would have been a charted hit, and rightfully so.
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jebsib wrote:
Didn't they also not release Huey's "Bad
is Bad" earlier in 1985? I remember
them showing the video a lot on Friday Night Videos and
MTV, but I don't even
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I also remember that video. You are correct about it not
even hitting the Rock Tracks charts. I guess they figured
they had enough hit singles off the Sports album. BTW,
"Bad Is Bad" was released as the B-side of the "Power Of
Love" 45 here in the US.
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The crazy thing about "Into The Groove" is, because it was
commercially available on the B-side of the "Angel" 12-
inch single, it was allowed to chart on Billboard's R&B
Singles chart at the time (peaked at #19).
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jebsib wrote:
Didn't they also not release Huey's
"Bad is Bad" earlier in 1985? I remember
them showing the video a lot on Friday Night Videos
and MTV, but I don't even
think it debuted on the Billboard Rock chart...
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I remember reading an article in Billboard around this
time that was talking about the increased no. of
singles released from albums. "Bad is Bad" was
mentioned as the potential sixth single from "Sports",
but the article states Huey didn't want it released.
He was worried about radio play, and quality
diminishing once you got six deep.
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