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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 10 February 2005 at 8:48am | IP Logged
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I'm not sure if the 10th Edition of the book specifies, but in my 8th Edition, there is no indication of which version is on each CD for De La Soul's "Me Myself And I."
The run times of both the LP and single version are about the same; however, there is a noticeable difference in the mix. The single version has been featured on "Monster TV Rap Hits" (Tommy Boy compilation), "Timeless: The Singles Collection" (Rhino), and possibly others. I don't have the vinyl 45, so I couldn't tell you if the "single version" or "LP version" was used on the record.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 17 October 2007 at 5:45pm | IP Logged
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I don't have the vinyl 45 either, but I may be able to shed a little light on which mix is which.
The LP version is indicated as such on the Tommy Boy's Greatest Beats set. It's got a completely a cappella section from 2:25-2:28. I have the LP version on the following CDs:- Deep In The Groove: In-Store Play Sampler Fall '95 (Rhino PRCD 7156, 1995; says that track is from Billboard Hot R&B Hits 1989 CD, to be released in November 1995 - presumably the same version)
- Sounds Of The Eighties 1988-1989 (Time-Life R988-30, 1995; digitally exactly 3.208 dB than above Rhino sampler, and clips on some peaks)
- New Millennium Hip-Hop Party (Rhino, 1999?, mastered way too loud and clips quite a bit)
- Tommy Boy's Greatest Beats (Tommy Boy, 1998; mastered even louder than Rhino Millennium CD! Ouch!)
The single version has a different mix, which brightens the drums a little and changes a small amount of the instrumentation. The most noticeable difference is the addition of a drum line from 2:25-2:28, which is missing from the LP version. I have the single version on these CDs:- Rap Wit' Cha (K-Tel 891-2, 1990)
- Rap's Biggest Hits (K-Tel 318-2, 1990)
There's an edit of the single version that appears on a UK CD collection, which may be what was used for the UK single. (Not sure.) It runs 3:25 and it's really close to the single mix described above, but can't be created from the single mix due to some unique transitions between sections. It's on- The Hits Album 10 (CBS/BMG/WEA UK CD HITS 10, 1989)
Does anyone have a promo CD single for this?
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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 8:17am | IP Logged
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We received neither a promo CD single nor a promo 45 for this to our station in 1989 - I think we had it on a "Hitmakers" CD. As I recall, it attained its Top 40 position due to incredible sales for both the 12" vinyl and cassette singles (certified Gold, in fact); it was played on the radio by hardly any Top 40 stations.
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eric_a MusicFan
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 9:32am | IP Logged
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On a sidenote, the stock 12" claimed to have 3 sides, with two interwoven grooves on the B-side. Depending on your needle drop, you might get one of two "sides".
On another sidenote, I vaguely remember seeing the original promo 12" singles from that first DLS album at my college station. I don't remember which singles were which, but I know some of them had white labels that looked like test pressings. Perhaps this helps jog someone's memory.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 9:59am | IP Logged
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On an even more distant sidenote, I remember an ad campaign that ran in Billboard for Three Feet High And Rising. There were a series of ads that ran over the course of a few weeks. Each one showed a pleasant-looking middle-class-type person holding the record, with a caption of "I went in for Janet Jackson, but I came out with De La Soul." Other weeks would have different artists swapped out for Janet, but the setup was always the same.
Many weeks later, there was a similar-looking ad that showed a remarkably grungy guy holding an album, with the caption of "I went in for De La Soul, but I came out with Soundgarden." Brilliant!
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torcan MusicFan
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 4:55pm | IP Logged
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The reason you don't have vinyl 45s is that there weren't any. In 1989, this was the first song to crack the top 40 on Billboard NOT to be available on a 7-inch single.
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 5:11pm | IP Logged
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eric_a wrote:
On a sidenote, the stock 12" claimed to have 3 sides, with two interwoven grooves on the B-side. Depending on your needle drop, you might get one of two "sides". |
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I used to have a repress of the 12" single, which also claimed to have three sides. It didn't, though. The 7-track maxi had four songs on side A and three on side B. Does anyone have a 12" (perhaps the original pressing) that actually has a double-grooved side?
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Posted: 18 October 2007 at 6:13pm | IP Logged
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aaronk wrote:
eric_a wrote:
On a sidenote, the stock 12" claimed to have 3 sides, with two interwoven grooves on the B-side. Depending on your needle drop, you might get one of two "sides". |
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I used to have a repress of the 12" single, which also claimed to have three sides. It didn't, though. The 7-track maxi had four songs on side A and three on side B. Does anyone have a 12" (perhaps the original pressing) that actually has a double-grooved side? |
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I'm pretty sure I do. If not, I had it at some point in the past. I'll check tonight.
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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 2:55pm | IP Logged
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Strangely, I actually found a copy in our record library at work today --- Tommy Boy 926. Side 2 does, in fact, has two interwoven grooves with different tracks. You can actually see a double-groove in the lead-in and trail-out.
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Posted: 19 October 2007 at 3:35pm | IP Logged
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That's pretty cool! I guess when they made the re-press they just put all the tracks on one groove.
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my commercial cassingle issued as tommy boy 7926 does not list a run time on the outer cardboard sleeve but does list a run time of 3:45 on the cassingle itself....it also lists the version as "radio" on both the cassingle and sleeve.....the cassingles actual run time is 3:43, like all 45 version db entries...........i always wondered WHY i couldn't find a commercial 45 for this song......that would explain it, torcan!!
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