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davidclark
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Posted: 28 July 2006 at 5:30pm \| IP Logged

I am trying to track down the 45 version of this. Not easy! Pat, you indicate most 45 versions that are remixed to also contain a rerecorded piano track, with the exception of one CD: A&M 828393601 The Singles 1969-1973 (remastered edition; 45 version). Is this in fact the true 45 version without the rerecorded piano track? The only other CD that seems to contain the 45 is The Singles 1969-1973 (first pressing).

Also, what's the difference b/n the 45 and LP in this case?

Edited by davidclark on 29 July 2006 at 8:10am

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Posted: 29 July 2006 at 4:06am \| IP Logged

According to the latest Collector's Choice catalog, there's now an import CD that has ALL the original album mixes. It's called "The Ultimate Collection", and it's from the Netherlands. Doesn't really answer your question, but I thought I'd put it out there anyway.

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Posted: 29 July 2006 at 6:55am \| IP Logged

as far as the album version goes, it's not separated from the next track--they overlap. Yesterday Once More is part of a very long medley of "oldies"--The Carpenters cover hits of the 60s and use a DJ voice over to make it sound like a radio show between tracks...it ends with a short reprise of Yesteday Once More (actually, an incredibly pretty altered melody of just the line "when I was young I'd listen to the radio").

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Posted: 29 July 2006 at 7:17am \| IP Logged

more on this...Is the difference between the LP version and 45 the electric guitar overdub present on the 45 that is not on the LP version. Any other differences?

Edited by davidclark on 30 July 2006 at 7:45am

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Posted: 19 May 2007 at 5:27pm \| IP Logged

My commercial 45, which is stereo, has a listed time of (3:50), but an actual time of (3:58). Just as an aside, I figured I'd also throw in here that my commercial 45 of "Top Of The World", also stereo, just misses an individual post, with a listed time of (2:56) and an actual time of (2:58) - simply for those "Carpenters 45 version Completionists" on the Board, of which I know currently exist out there.

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Posted: 20 May 2007 at 6:06pm \| IP Logged

Pat, I just saw your new database update for this. Just to let you know, the listed time of (3:50) in my post above was not a typo. Since it appears your commercial 45 for this song has a listed time of (3:55), I am concluding that commercial 45s show a listed time of either (3:50) or (3:55), not (3:55) exclusively.

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I swear to God my commercial 45 for "Yesterday Once More" is mono on the hit side, stereo on the B-side, though both sides say stereo. I'm not noticing any stereo separation on the "Yesterday Once More" side at all. Anyone else notice this? Deadwax on mine is A&M 2493-M2 and "triangle" 91638.

Edited by Brian W. on 26 September 2013 at 11:22pm

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Posted: 27 September 2013 at 5:53am \| IP Logged

I just gave my commercial copy a listen, and while the
lead vocal and much of the instrumentation does seem to be
mixed to the center, background vocals and reverb have
separation. A bit on the narrow side, but definitely
stereo. Deadwax info on mine: A+M 2493S-PB.

Maybe you got a copy where the stamper for the mono side
of the promo was used.

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Posted: 27 September 2013 at 7:03am \| IP Logged

Hykker wrote:

Maybe you got a copy where the stamper for the mono side of the promo was used.

Agreed; Monarch must've used the mono master on some west coast stock pressings. The mono side of my DJ 45 reads: "A&M 2493-M1 (Monarch Records "MR" logo) ∆91638". At least Monarch didn't mistakenly use the promo's awful CSG-processed stereo side ("A&M CSG - 2493S-M2 (DJ) (Monarch Records "MR" logo) ∆91640").

The Columbia Terre Haute stock styrenes issued in the midwest were in stereo. My two read "T A&M2493S-T1" and "A&M 2493S-T3 TII" respectively.

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Posted: 27 September 2013 at 1:59pm \| IP Logged

Yah Shure wrote:

Hykker wrote:

Maybe you got a copy where the stamper for the mono side of the promo was used.

Hey... do the "M" and the "S" in the deadwax on these mean "Mono" and "Stereo"? 'Cause if they do, then I don't even have to wonder if my ears are deceiving me.

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Posted: 27 September 2013 at 3:01pm \| IP Logged

Brian, in this case, the "2493" indicates mono, and the "2493S" indicates stereo.

The letter after the dash following that number represents the pressing plant ("P" for Columbia Pitman, "T" for Columbia Terre Haute and "M" for Monarch.

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Posted: 27 September 2013 at 6:02pm \| IP Logged

Yah Shure wrote:

Ah, I see. That explains why the stereo B-side, "Road Ode," is A&M 2494S-M4.

Thanks. It's great to have such knowledgable people on this board.

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Posted: 29 September 2013 at 10:28pm \| IP Logged

So am I understanding correctly then that commercial 45 pressings of The Carpenters' "Yesterday Once More" were issued in both mono and stereo? If so, I'll make sure I update this in the List of Mono and Stereo 45s - 1973 thread.

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Posted: 30 September 2013 at 2:18am \| IP Logged

Todd Ireland wrote:

Apparently... I've got one.

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Posted: 30 September 2013 at 9:16pm \| IP Logged

This is interesting given that all other Carpenters Top 40 singles dating back to 1970 have been documented in the mono/stereo threads as being in stereo only. So I wonder if anyone else has run across commercial 45 pressings of other Carpenters hits in mono?

Edited by Todd Ireland on 30 September 2013 at 9:18pm

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Posted: 30 September 2013 at 9:52pm \| IP Logged

Todd Ireland wrote:

Well, it does SAY stereo on the label. It was probably inadvertant. If I recall correctly, their "Merry Christmas Darling" commercial single used the CSG stereo process that we discussed briefly in the "Calling Occupants" thread.

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Posted: 01 October 2013 at 8:29am \| IP Logged

Does the mono 45 pressing sound like a dedicated mix or a fold-down
of the stereo 45? Since most singles were being issued in stereo by
1973, I'm thinking this is probably a fold-down.

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Posted: 17 October 2013 at 8:01am \| IP Logged

The mono is a fold down. The Stereo mix was on the
commercial stock 45. There might have been a promo mono
side stamper which got used for a pressing run of stock 45
singles.

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