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Both my commercial and promo 45s for this show a listed time of (3:02), but both actually run (3:05).
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For those not familiar with the story behind this song, Tony Orlando sang
one line at a time for this song to be used as a demo. His producer friend
piece all the vocals together added, backing vocals and instruments and the
rest is history. My source is the Goldmine magazine.
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First album, "Candida" (Bell 6052) featuring that and "Knock Three Times" with generic hippie couple on front cover... no musicians credited, but producer credit: "produced by the Tokens and Dave Appell"... legend has it that Toni Wine and Carol Bayer Sager sang background vocals... Second album "Dawn featuring Tony Orlando" (Bell 6069), w/cover photo of Tony (no mustache), Telma Hopkins and Joyce Vincent... still no musicians credited, but at least we know who the vocalists were... produced by "Hank Medress, Dave Appell and Tokens"... Top 40 hits, "Summer Sand", "I Play and Sing", and "What are you doing Sunday", recycled from the first album... the first Dawn album was the first album i ever bought... oh, the memories...
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I have two different "versions" of this song. One is the mix on the Rhino "Best Of", the other is a stereo mix (from vinyl which I believe to be perhaps the stereo promo version).
My point is that they differ. Not only is the mix very different (where the instruments are located), but on my vinyl, there are background vocals starting at 2:29 for 3 seconds that are NOT on the Rhino CD mix, and the vinyl does not contain the cymbals at the beginning of the song.
I also have a mono mix that is without the background vocals at that point but contains the cymbals.
This begs the question, was the original stereo mix different from the mono mix? Anyone can help here? Is the Rhino a new remix, done several years after it was a hit?
Edited by davidclark on 16 August 2010 at 4:20pm
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Hi guys,
David, i never heard that Rhino remix until the Rhino best-of was released.
I just assumed they actually got hold of the multi-track for it, or did some major digging thru tapes and found an existing unreleased stereo mix that was closer to the 45.
I have never heard the mono 45, but had the song in mono on quite a few old V/A comps.
I always wondered why it always seemed to turn up later in mono when the original Bell LP was in stereo.
That slight mixing difference you discovered might explain that.
BTW, for anyone interested, the original Bell stereo LP mix did turn up on an import CD. "The Very Best Of Dawn" on the BR Music label. (BR-145-2) Needed a little re-EQ, but it's from tapes and sounds pretty decent.
The sound on the newer remixed stereo is excellent, but I'm a little partial to original mix because, well, that's the way i've heard it for 30 years!
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Does this mean the MONO versions listed in the database match the 45?
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Pat Downey
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The vinyl LP does have the background vocals at 2:29 and the mono 45 does not. I checked every cd in the database and the LP version does not appear on any of the cd's listed in the database.
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thanks, Pat. I just realized I own the "Candida" LP (Bell 6052). I hauled out my turntable, and "Candida" is stereo, and it does indeed have the background vocals and the cymbals mixed out at the beginning. So, as you state, this LP version is missing from CD (although it's available as a download from iTunes).
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I'm wondering if there were different pressings of the AM Gold 1970 copy of this song. Though it's listed as stereo, my copy is definitely mono. The deadwax on mine is 10 OPCD 2605-2 SRC+01.
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