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crapfromthepast
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I recreated the 45 edit from the promotional CD The Top Ten Hits Of Expose (Arista ASCD-2483, 1992), which appears to have the LP version (actual run time of 4:20). Here's what I did, in case you want to repeat the steps.
There's an out-of-sequence edit you'll need between the first and second verses - it's a transitional 2-second block that gets replaced before the vocals start in the second verse. You probably wouldn't notice if it wasn't pointed out to you.
These are the blocks of the LP version you should use to recreate the 45:
0:00-0:01
edit on downbeat
0:09-0:16
edit between beats
0:24-0:41
edit on upbeat
0:49-1:43
edit on downbeat
0:47-0:49
edit on snare hit between beats
1:45-4:01
start fade at 3:45
When all this is assembled, your mixdown should have edits at 0:01, 0:08, 0:25, 1:19 and 1:21, with a 32-beat sinusoidal fade starting at 3:21.
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I can't believe you posted on this topic because I was just trying to recreate the 45 last weekend. I quit when I got to the "out-of-sequence" edit since I assumed the different instrumentation was due to it being some sort of a 12" edit.
Thanks for the info!
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i believe the proper 45 version is available on cd already...did you check the db first before you made the edit?
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I can't speak for crapfromthepast, but already having the LP version on CD and the 45 on vinyl, I was just trying to save a few bucks by making the edit myself.
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Same situation with me - I have both the 45 and CD.
I've done this with a lot of '80s-era songs, but thought this one was post-worthy because the out-of-sequence edit wasn't obvious.
If any of you would like to see more posts like this, I'll be happy to post editing instructions for the other tracks I've worked on.
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crapfromthepast wrote:
Same situation with me - I have both the 45 and
CD.
I've done this with a lot of '80s-era songs, but thought this one was post-
worthy because the out-of-sequence edit wasn't obvious.
If any of you would like to see more posts like this, I'll be happy to post
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I too, own tons of 45s and tons of CDs, and sometimes I'd prefer to spend
time editing over money, when I already have all the source material. I'm
especially curious about quirkier, out-of-sequence edits - like this one,
"Freddie's Dead", "Beginnings", etc.
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The only other out-of-sequence edit I've done was to re-create the "short version" of REO Speedwagon's I Do'wanna Know. I didn't save the edit points for reference, but I believe I had to move part of the vocal from the end of the second chorus to the end of the first chorus (in addition to removing the organ solo).
Actually, as I type, I am rememering that I had to resequence some vocals to re-create the edit of Method of Modern Love by Hall & Oates. Part of the fist chorus is also used in the short chorus that precedes the first verse.
Edited by 995wlol on 20 May 2007 at 3:01pm
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I've researched and searched to find a cd version of the
45 edit (listed 3:29 / actual 3:37). Most compilation
discs either have the lp version (4:18) the extended
version or some kind of custom edit or the tracks are
mixed together. Anyone know where I can find the proper 45
edit on cd? Thanks in advance
Edited by promojunkie on 22 August 2022 at 12:00pm
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I was curious myself if the 45 version ever appeared on CD, so I dug into it and found exactly two CDs that include it:- an obscure compilation called Heartthrob Hits (Rhino 75217)
- Playlist: The Very Best Of (Arista/Legacy 373748)
Kudos to the Legacy crew for including the 45 versions on a lot of the Playlist CDs (Eddie Money's "Two Tickets To Paradise" springs to mind).
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crapfromthepast wrote:
I was curious myself if the 45
version ever appeared on CD, so I dug into it and found
exactly two CDs that include it:- an obscure
compilation called Heartthrob Hits (Rhino 75217)
- Playlist: The Very Best Of (Arista/Legacy
373748)
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How's the mastering on the Playlist CD, Ron? Is it
brickwalled? Some of the "Playlist" series tracks I have
are pretty nice, while others came from dynamically
squashed sources.
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Good question. I don't have this disc, unfortunately.
Can someone weigh in on the dynamic range for "Come Go With Me" on Playlist?
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Cherry Pop in the UK issued a deluxe version of both
Expose's debut and sophomore sets with all relevant
45, 12", and crossover mixes. Well worth acquiring.
Hall and Oates and Gloria Estefan/Miami Sound Machine
had new to cd single mixes on their Playlist cds as well
which are not that easy to come by.
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I have Playlist and the Deluxe Edition of their 1st and 2nd Albums. I don't have any programs that can determine a specific number with regards to
dynamic range, but I have an old Roxio program that shows waveforms and when comparing the two, it looks like Playlist might be the more dynamic of
the two.
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