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Posted: 14 September 2007 at 12:53am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
When trying to make my own 45 edit of "When A Man Loves A Woman" by Bette Midler, I noticed that Experience The Divine chops off part of the intro. I'm guessing that this would account for the :06 difference between this CD and the OST to The Rose. It should probably labeled in the database as "neither the 45 nor LP version."
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Posted: 26 September 2007 at 1:02am | IP Logged Quote aaronk
OK, I'll bring this thread up again, because when I compared the 45 to the version on Experience The Divine, the only difference I noticed was the chopped off intro on the CD.

Pat, what is the difference between the LP version and the 45 version? The copy I am listening to runs 4:56, which is pretty close to the soundtrack run time of 4:59.
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Posted: 26 September 2007 at 10:22am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
My original LP version comment was in error as I based that on the 45 that I had which is a dj 45 that is truly an edit of the LP version. The commercial 45 is not an edit of the LP version.
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Posted: 26 September 2007 at 10:56am | IP Logged Quote jimct
Pat, my only promo 45 for this song mimics the commercial 45. Could you provide additional details on your DJ 45, that is truly an edit of the LP version? Given the song's length, it does make sense that a second, shorter DJ promo 45 would have been issued for it.
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Posted: 26 September 2007 at 2:50pm | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
My copy is Atlantic 3643 and clearly states "edited version" on both the mono and stereo side. Stated and actual time is (3:45) and the matrix number is A37885-2 on the mono side and -4 on the stereo side. I have an extra copy if you wish to trade for a copy.
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Posted: 30 April 2008 at 7:52am | IP Logged Quote abagon
My stock commercial 45's running time and listed time are "4:55" (ATLANTIC 3643)
The vocal lyric word "When" of the first "When A Man Loves A Woman"starts at "0:19"

Edited by abagon on 30 April 2008 at 8:20am
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Posted: 08 July 2008 at 11:56am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
Does anyone have the 1980 parent soundtrack LP The Rose on Atlantic who can report the vinyl LP run time of "When a Man Loves a Woman"?
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Posted: 09 July 2008 at 9:40am | IP Logged Quote abagon
I have the soundtrack vinyl LP "The Rose" made in U.S.A.
The listed time of this song is "4:42" on the record label (A side-4). The part of this music performance is surely (4:42). But this 45 is added the first 3 seconds and the last 10 seconds of the cheers and applause. Because this song continues the next song and also the previous song. Although I don't have this album CD, I think that it's possible to make the 45 from it too.
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Posted: 10 July 2008 at 9:38pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
So if I'm understanding correctly, it sounds like the record label may have based the 4:42 LP time of "When a Man Loves a Woman" strictly on the music portion, while the 45 time included :13 of cheers and applause as part of its 4:55 length.
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Posted: 11 July 2008 at 8:43pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland
I should clarify that the first :03 of the 45 contains a countoff, while the last :10 contain the extra cheers and applause, like abagon pointed out.
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Posted: 23 April 2012 at 6:59pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta
The database states the following:

Experience The Divine: Best Of (missing the first :06 )

It should be noted that the first :06 is also missing on "The Rose" soundtrack as well. It not's actually missing....it is included at the end of the previous track titled "concert monologue"

The LP version also doesnt fade out like the 45....The audience applause tracks into the next selection.
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Posted: 24 April 2012 at 5:38pm | IP Logged Quote Fetta
Pat... I noticed that you removed the comment "missing the first :06" from "Experience The Divine Miss M" entry.

That comment is correct.

"The Rose Soundtrack" includes the :06 seconds however the :06 is included on the previous track which is titled "concert monologue".


Does that make sense?
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Posted: 25 April 2012 at 8:57am | IP Logged Quote Pat Downey
I understand what you are saying. All live vinyl LP's where there is essentially one continuous track on each side of the vinyl presents problems in indexing when that vinyl LP is released on cd. Who am I to say one cd is missing :06 of an introduction when it is placed at the end of the preceding track? In my opinion, it is best not to comment at all about where stage talk is indexed.
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Posted: 26 November 2014 at 12:15pm | IP Logged Quote Michaeldila
i just saw the dj promo 45 that runs 3:45 on ebay. does anyone know the
actual edit points? it doesn't seem possible (to me) to get it to run that
length. unless it's just a fade...?
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Posted: 26 November 2014 at 1:09pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk
It's one easy edit that removes 1:49 to 2:56. The edit occurs after the word "her" (in the line "trying to hold on to her precious love") and picks up after the word "my" (in the line "trying to hold on to my precious love").

It should be noted that you have to start with the correct commercial 45 edit to get the proper promo edit, which means the intro starts off with 1 second of barely audible crowd noise, and then Bette starts speaking "when he...when he..." The song fades to silence at 4:56 of the stock 45 and 3:47 of the promo.

Edited by aaronk on 26 November 2014 at 1:09pm

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Posted: 01 December 2014 at 6:58pm | IP Logged Quote Michaeldila
thanks for the info, aaronk.
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