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jimct
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Posted: 07 October 2007 at 7:27pm \| IP Logged

My promo CD single for this (PRO-CD-3152) has two tracks:

1-Edit (listed 4:02; actual 4:09)
2-LP Version (listed 4:35; actual 4:34)

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Posted: 22 October 2007 at 11:56am \| IP Logged

Both my commercial and promo 45s for this have a listed time of (4:06), but an actual time of (4:09). This is also the exact same timimg that appears on the "edit" version of the promo CD single.

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Posted: 23 October 2007 at 11:04am \| IP Logged

jim...my commercial 45 issued as full moon 27824 states a run time of 4:06, but actually runs 4:09 and is identical to the 4:09 version from the promo cd single.....

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Posted: 28 August 2008 at 3:37pm \| IP Logged

Where is the edit on this song? I just listened to a copy of the (what I'm told)
is the original 45, and it sounds like the LP version faded early.

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Posted: 28 August 2008 at 7:07pm \| IP Logged

That wouldn't be the first time a record label used the term "edit" for an early fade. Many of Prince's singles are early fades, while the label will read "edit" on the 45s or promo CDs.

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Posted: 05 April 2010 at 11:19pm \| IP Logged

Can anybody confirm the edit is simply an early fade?

(Wow, 1988 has been REALLY difficult to get right!)

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Posted: 06 April 2010 at 8:50am \| IP Logged

That's a good point. The database still lists the lone CD with "One Good Woman" as having the LP version. If it really is just an early fade, it should probably say "length." Does anyone know?

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Posted: 09 April 2010 at 5:33pm \| IP Logged

Oh, yeah. I do have the CD single for this! Lost in the shuffle, for sure.

The 45 version is indeed an early fade of the LP version. If you want to recreate the edit that's on the CD single, first find the downbeat at 3:56, then back up to the first hit in the drum fill, which will be at "1-AND-2-and-3-and-4-and", at 3:54.3 (timing from my CD single - yours may be a little off). Then add a 32-beat fade from 3:54.3 to the first hit in the next drum fill at 4:09.8.

I have the CD3, too, and "One Good Woman" is a differently-EQ'd digital clone of the promo CD single version.

FYI - "One Good Woman" tops the list of my "great chorus/terrible verses" songs. Right along with "Should I See" by Frozen Ghost...

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Posted: 12 April 2010 at 6:52pm \| IP Logged

Anyone ever notice the sudden pitch change at about 3:14 or 3:15?

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Posted: 12 April 2010 at 7:54pm \| IP Logged

Just checked, and there's no pitch shift.

It's recorded with a live drummer playing to a click track, and there's no drift at all in the song.

Rock solid 124.3 BPM for the "Edit", 124.2 BPM for the "LP Version" on my promo CD single.

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Posted: 12 April 2010 at 8:47pm \| IP Logged

Definitely does on the commercial 45 I have. 7-27824-A SR1 is the deadwax info.

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Posted: 14 April 2010 at 9:18pm \| IP Logged

Is it possible there may be some sort of physical defect on your vinyl copy, John?

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Posted: 15 April 2010 at 10:05am \| IP Logged

Paul, I will send you an mp3 copy to listen to for your observation.

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Posted: 16 April 2010 at 10:29pm \| IP Logged

I've listened to John's audio file... I do hear the pitch "flutter" at the 3:14-3:15 mark, but I can also detect it during other parts of the song, especially during the first minute. Like Ron pointed out, this problem doesn't exist on Peter Cetera's "One Good Woman" promo CD single.

I suspect John's 45 could either be slightly warped or have some dirty grooves, though I'm not a vinyl expert on such matters.

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Posted: 26 January 2015 at 3:07am \| IP Logged

database still shows "LP version" for this track. From what I read in this
thread, the 45 and CD single are both an early fade of the LP version.

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Posted: 23 February 2023 at 4:57pm \| IP Logged

Todd Ireland wrote:

I've listened to John's audio file... I do hear the pitch "flutter" at the 3:14-3:15 mark, but I can also
detect it during other parts of the song, especially during the first minute. Like Ron pointed out, this problem doesn't exist on
Peter Cetera's "One Good Woman" promo CD single.

I suspect John's 45 could either be slightly warped or have some dirty grooves, though I'm not a vinyl expert on such matters.

I just gave this song a listen on the "Love, Glory, Honor & Heart" CD Box set that Warner released in 2021... the set has both the
LP and Single Edit versions of "One Good Woman", and they both have a noticeable downward pitch bend at the 3:14-3:15 mark.

The same pitch bend is noticeable in the official music video, as posted by Warner Music Vault:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok2Jyjtm698

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