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After listening to the mono 45, and tweaking up the high end quite a bit, I did detect a handclap at 2:03. Didn't hear one at 2:05.
Bill, your radio ears must not be as bad as mine! For me, it's too many years of LOUD Koss Pro 4 AA's! ;) Haha.
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I did the same thing and have the same conclusion as eriejwg.
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Yeah I didn't listen with headphones, I just knew there was least one handclap there and quickly listened again. I thought I heard one at 2:05 but maybe not.
But one handclap at 2:03 mekes it a different version I suppose.
We really ARE all insane...
Maybe this is the sound of one hand clapping??
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I can see a new database notation now...
Hold the applause! The 45 version contains one LONE hand clap at 2:03 that does not appear on the stereo LP version.
HAHA.
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It is amazing, isn't it. Yes, we are insane! haha...that we notice these things, and, track them. Keeps us challenged for sure!
Identifying, then getting these mono 45 versions is proving to be quite the challenge.
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I know we just discussed this song in another thread--but danged if I can find it. But I am curious why the mono 45 has never seen the light of day on CD when other Three Dog Night mono singles have (I know Dunhill blew away some mono masters, but one would think that if some were salvaged that the others could conceivably be around somewhere).
Inquiring minds, and all that. :)
Edited by sriv94 on 16 September 2009 at 9:06pm
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The mono 45, labeled as Dunhill D-4239, runs just a hair over 3:00, with a handclap at 2:03. :)
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The Canadian RCA Victor 45 on Orange label is superior to any US Dunhill 45 I ever owned. Much quieter surfaces and superior mastering. Has more low end. Same mono mix as the US Dunhill 45.
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Are there any other elusive Dunhill hit mixes on non-US 45s that might sound better than their US counterparts? Has anyone noticed a drastic price decrease in Mamas & Papas 45s since that disgusting news story came out?
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KentT wrote:
| The Canadian RCA Victor 45 on Orange label is superior to any US Dunhill 45 I ever owned. Much quieter surfaces and superior mastering. Has more low end. Same mono mix as the US Dunhill 45. |
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This brings up an interesting point. Not all Canadian 45's had the US 45 mixes.... i once had a Canadian pressing of Joy To The World on the orange RCA Victor label, it was a mono mix of the album version....no guitar solo, no edit.....how do we know what will contain the US 45 version and what won't?
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Perhaps the Canadians who frequent the board can help us with that :D
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aaronk wrote:
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You rang? I must admit I'm more familiar with the '76-91 time period, but from what I've determined from those years, probably about 90% of the time the Canadian and US 45s were the same.
Towards the later part of the '80s some Canadian labels used the promo edits for commercial 45s rather than the longer album versions US 45s sometimes used, and there were a couple of cases in the early '80s where that was actually reversed.
Sometimes there'd be two different Canadian pressings (just like in the US) with two different mixes on them. One example that always comes to mind is Billy Joel's "Keeping the Faith". When the 45 first came out in Canada, it was the 4:35 album version. A few weeks later we got the 4:44 "special mix".
If anyone needs specific examples you can either PM me, or post a question to this board and I'll try to answer if I can.
Hope this helps :)
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aaronk wrote:
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Not a non-U.S. version, but I'm aware of 3 different mixes of "Celebrate" by 3 Dog Night. The album, the Dunhill 4229 release, and the gold-label back-to-back hits single.
For some reason, when the song was first released, the local record store received the BTB hit singles first (or else they were already in stock...either "One" or "Easy To Be Hard" was on the other side). I noticed a difference in the handclaps in the "celebrate, celebrate dance to the music" chorus between this and what was played on the radio. Somewhere over the years, that copy got lost and I replaced it with the standard single.
Anybody got both versions who can compare 'em?
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So what's the latest on this title? The database now doesn't mention the missing handclap, just that every entry is now "lp version."
Are there more mix differences other than the missing "handclap"?
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Not that I'm aware, but the ending is longer.
Edited by sriv94 on 16 February 2012 at 9:45pm
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And of course it's also faded at 2:56.
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