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Okay, so the 45 remix version of "I Can't Go for That" is not available on any domestic CDs. Anyone know of any imports that have it?
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Brian:
To date, I'm not aware of the 45 remix appearing anywhere on CD, which is unfortunate. The 12-inch version of "I Can't Go For That" however is available on CD, which as Pat points out is the basis of the 45 version. The best sounding CD appearance of the 12-inch version by far is on Hall & Oates' Private Eyes disc (BMG Heritage 58615) which was remastered and expanded earlier this year. When I get a chance, I'm going to use a digital editing software program on my computer to attempt to recreate the 45 version from this 12-inch mix and then burn it to CD!
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Another H&O 45 remix which has never appeared on CD in any country is "I Don't Wanna Lose You" from "Along the Red Ledge". Great song. Much better mix than the album version. But the CD releases always go with the album version.
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Todd Ireland wrote:
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When I get a chance, I'm going to use a digital editing software program on my computer to attempt to recreate the 45 version from this 12-inch mix and then burn it to CD! |
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Yeah, I may have to buy the 45 and give that a shot as well. I've done that with many songs that haven't showed up on CD in their 45 versions -- House of the Rising Sun, Let's Go Crazy, Me and Bobby McGee, One of These Nights, I Can't Stop Loving You... lots of others.
Unfortunately, it's not quite possible to recreate the 45 edit of "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" from the 12" mix, which is what it's an edit of, because there's one point that is mixed differently on the 45, where the second verse is cut out. So the 45 is technically a separate mix, not just an edit of the dance mix.
Hmm, I gotta post my complete list of Michael Jackson 45 versions on CD soon...
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To my ears, the 12" mix is a dedicated mix with a heavier dose of low end, a bit less echo and a bit less compression.
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the version that is on "billboard hot r&b hits 1982" is clearly NOT the 45 version...........i just notified pat as such withe the below email....
hey pat....thx for the attention regarding the website access.......i hope i can figure out how to work it............btw
i just picked up the cd "billboard hot r&b hits:1982" and the song "i can't go for that (no can do)" by hall & oates is NOT the 45 version...........the 45 is clearly a remix of some kind........i don't know if the version on that cd is the lp/cd version but it is clearly NOT the 45 version.......don't know if this has been discussed yet but you might want to ammend the website data on this matter..........edtop40
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So is the "official" 45 of I Can't Go For That an edit of the 12 version?
The database lists several CDs with "45 Version" of this song. Does that mean that the edits are the same as the 45 version, but that the mix is not the true 45 mix on these CDs?
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as far as i'm concerned NO cd contains the 45 version....i can't say anything about the 12" since i don't have that item......edtop40
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Ed, I think the dj copy of "I Can't Go For That" is causing some confusion on my part as it has 2 different versions of this song it. The version that I have been using as my standard "45 version" runs 3:39 but the version you are calling the "45 version" I think is on the flip side of my dj 45, runs 3:50 and is called the "club mix". Does the commercial 45 label state it is the "club mix"?
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no.....doesn't say anything about a club mix......in the credits field it states this....."remixed by robert wright".........the 45's face states the run time as 3:50 an indeed runs that long....
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I guess I'm like Roscoe--I'm confused as well.
In the old site, there was an "errata" section that mentioned (probably based on this original thread) that all CDs with the 45 version of "I Can't Go For That" are not the 45 version--they are edits of the LP version but the actual commercial 45 was an edit of the 12" single. Is that indeed the case?
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yes and i don't know.....
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That's interesting new information. I've never seen the DJ copy of the 45; however, I can tell you this much. The commercial 45 does NOT state anything about a club mix. I have both the US and UK version of the 45, and they are BOTH the same edit of the 12" mix. The version that has appeared on CD time & time again is an edit of the LP version. I thought this edit first appeared on Hall & Oates Rock 'n' Soul Pt. 1: Greatest Hits; however it has also apparently made an appearance on the original DJ 45.
My conclusion: The 45 version has never made an appearance on CD. All versions that run (3:39) are the DJ edit.
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Hi
Just had to add this for fun - I think i have the 45 version on a CD but I have no 45 to compare it to anymore.
I compared it to the short edit on Rock N Soul and it is a different mix.
It's on a 1991 CD that does not qualify fot the database because it was a record club issue. i only recently learned what the bmg-direct logo means)
"The Very Best Of Hall & Oates" DMC1-1005. It's a 14 track disc that nicely rounded up stuff that was omitted from Rock N Soul. Found it in a used bin back then.
Anyway this one runs about 3:51, so it seems to be the 45.
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Yes, you probably DO have the 45 version. Nice find!
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Hi
Well, amazing as it is, I think I do not have the 45, but the LP mix edited to 3:50.
Last nite Dave C. sent me the 12" mix. I got rid of my 12" and 45 years ago, because i didn't remember them being that different.
Funny, now that i hear it again, I remember this mix - and i can hear how different it is. The vocal is much more up front, and the drum track is mixed differently.
I only gave a quick listen to the cd, i was likely fooled by the brighter eq on the SP disc.
When i hae time, i'll compare them properly (matching their EQ and do an a/b..)
But if the 45 was erally an edit of this 12" mix, then SP disc ain't it.
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The 45 really IS an edit of the 12" mix. I matched the edits and made my own 45 version several years ago. At the time, I found the 12" mix on a now-out-of-print compilation on Buddha/BMG. It's currently available on the remastered edition of the full-length album. There are several edits, especially on the intro and at the end.
And you're correct Mark, it's considerably different---vocals have lots of reverb (and no channel delay like the LP vocals) and there's added instrumentation in addition to the remixing on existing instruments.
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aaron.............can you edit the 12" single version or the lp version to come up with the correct 45 version?????
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edtop40 wrote:
| aaron.............can you edit the 12" single version or the lp version to come up with the correct 45 version????? |
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I was able to recreate the 45 using the 12" version. Don't remember the edit points offhand, though.
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roscoe.....could you be so kind as to send me an mp3 of your homemade version...
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