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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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According to abagon, the actual and printed commercial 45 run time of Bobby Brown's "Don't Be Cruel" is 4:07. The reason I note this is because database CD appearances of this song sporting a "45 version" comment run 4:07-4:13.
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It might also be worth mentioning that if you're looking for the "extended version" on CD, just pick up one of the album versions...
I just wasted about 20 minutes carefully comparing the 12" to the album version only to find NO differences! (Maybe a slight speed pitch difference...)
On the other hand, the Rapacious Mix was released the same year, in 1988, & truly is a unique remix.
I think it may have been available on CD (maybe import) at one point but don't know if it is now.
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Todd Ireland wrote:
According to abagon, the actual and printed commercial 45 run time of Bobby Brown's "Don't Be Cruel" is 4:07. The reason I note this is because database CD
appearances of this song sporting a "45 version" comment run 4:07-4:13. |
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Todd or Ron (Crap), was there a U.S. Promo CD for "Don't Be Cruel"? Discogs doesn't list one, but surely there was one?
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Loveland wrote:
was there a U.S. Promo CD for "Don't Be Cruel"? Discogs doesn't list one, but surely there was one? |
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All of the singles following Don't Be Cruel saw US promo CD5 releases, but I've never seen any indication that it had one. Promo CDs were still a bit hit-and-miss in the summer of '88.
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I also don't have a promo CD for "Don't Be Cruel," and I've never found one. I have promo CDs for all the other hits from that album, though.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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I do have the 45 version it on a HitDisc (or the like) from that period.
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No U.S. promo CD single for "Don't Be Cruel" is listed in Gregory Cooper's 1998 book, Collectible Compact Disc Price Guide 2, either - and it's quite thorough (up through '98, anyway)...
However, it DOES list two commercial 3" CD singles for the song, both imports: One from the U.K. (MCA DMCA-1310); the other from Japan (MCA 10P3-6037). Sorry, but the book doesn't give the contents of either...
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To Brian W:
HitDiscs issued in that period oftentimes were vinyl dubs!
Now I'm not saying that "Don't Be Cruel" was a vinyl dub, because I don't have that particular HitDisc.
TM Century in the early days of HitDisc would transfer the radio version of a cut from the best available source they received; whether CD promo, DJ 45, or promo 12-inch of the radio edit.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
To Brian W:
HitDiscs issued in that period oftentimes were vinyl dubs!
Now I'm not saying that "Don't Be Cruel" was a vinyl dub, because I don't have that particular HitDisc.
TM Century in the early days of HitDisc would transfer the radio version of a cut from the best available source they received; whether CD promo, DJ 45, or promo 12-inch of the radio edit.
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It's not HitDisc, anyway, it's Hitmakers, which was apparently a magazine also. They would issue samples every four weeks, it looks like. "Top 40 CD Sampler, Volume 8, July 8, 1988." It's definitely not a vinyl dub on this disc. It runs an actual 4:07.
Edited by Brian W. on 17 June 2013 at 4:51pm
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i have the uk 3" cd single issued as mca dmca1310 which
contains the below tracks
1-rapacious edit (3:41 listed; 3:40 actual)
2-the rapacious mix (7:08 listed; 7:08 actual)
3-extended version (6:49 listed; 6:48 actual)
if any one needs these tracks for comparison purposes, drop
me a pm..
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aaronk Admin Group
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Brian W. wrote:
It's not HitDisc, anyway, it's Hitmakers, which was apparently a
magazine also. They would issue samples every four weeks, it looks
like. "Top 40 CD Sampler, Volume 8, July 8, 1988." It's definitely not a
vinyl dub on this disc. It runs an actual 4:07. |
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Andrew is correct about the sources for HitDisc. They did use vinyl for
many of their sources.
Hitmakers is interesting, though, because I have never detected vinyl
sources for any of their early discs, yet they issued quite a few songs
that I've never seen on promo cd single. They must have had label
connections that provided them with DAT copies.
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edtop40 wrote:
i have the uk 3" cd single issued as mca dmca1310 which
contains the below tracks
1-rapacious edit (3:41 listed; 3:40 actual)
2-the rapacious mix (7:08 listed; 7:08 actual)
3-extended version (6:49 listed; 6:48 actual)
if any one needs these tracks for comparison purposes, drop
me a pm..
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I have the rapacious edit. I could swear this was played on the radio here in NY in the 80s and 90s. Anyone else confirm?
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It was played when they did mix specials but I don't
remember it as a current or alternate.
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