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The database lists Pop Muzik's appearance on the CD "Rock the Planet 70s New Rock" as the 45 version. However, the version on this CD actually sounds like an alternate version (either a different performance or a significantly different mix).
The version that appears on "Just Can't Get Enough New Wave Hits of the 80s" (also listed as the 45 version in the database) sounds like the version I remember from the radio.
Anyone else heard the version on Rock The Planet?
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Yes, I have that mix, and it's the '89 Hip Hop Remix---not the version released in '79. It's the same vocal take, but the instrumentation is completely changed.
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Does the Varese Sarabande Then 1 CD have the correct 45 version?
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sriv94:
As far as I can tell, the Then 1: Totally Oldies CD on Varese Sarabande 302066219 does contain the correct 45 version of "Pop Muzik". The good folks at Varese typically go to great lengths to make sure the proper single versions are used on this particular CD series.
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I just received my copy of New York-London-Paris-Munich, and the (4:53) version of "Pop Muzik," which the database lists as LP version has a strange ending. On the line "Do you read me? Loud and clear," at the very end, there's a repeating/skipping effect for a few seconds on the word "clear." Then there's a quick backwards note and it ends cold.
The reason I bring this up is because we used to play a 4:50-something version on the air, but I don't remember it ending like that. Is the (4:58) promo version (listed in the notes in the database) different from the LP version? Perhaps this is the version we played.
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Aaron, for 3 years, the guy that followed me on the air back then (in '79/'80/'81) used the full LP version of "Pop Muzik" as his program's "Opening Theme Song". Your description of the ending is DEAD on to my repeated memories; it's EXACTLY what I heard at least 150 separate times, during the DJ transition in our main studio back then. To answer your (4:58) promo question, I just pulled it and played the ending for you. That DJ 45 version ALSO has the exact ending found in both your description, and my memory. Sounds to me like the (4:50)-something you got used to playing on the air was a "neither the 45 nor the LP version."
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Thanks, Jim. You're probably right that we played a "neither" version. It's also possible that my memory has failed me on this one (especially since it was only played very occasionally).
When our station switched from CD to hard drive, sometime around 1997, we purchased the Maestro system, which came pre-loaded with music. Unless it was a very different version from what we had been playing, we just used what they gave us. I know for certain that not all of the songs were the hit single versions. For example, that "neither" version of "Tainted Love" found on Pure 80s was the one that came pre-loaded.
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The version with the cold ending was on the original 12" single, which I
had but finally got rid of when i got that version on CD. What's
disappointing about that extended version is that as a result of the hiccup
on that line, it actually cuts out some unique vocal ad libs on the fade out
that don't appear anywhere else in the song.
Does anyone have the original M vinyl LP who can clarify which version is
actually the LP version? I always assumed the 45 version WAS the LP
version and that the long version was the extended mix.
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My PD told me that the version of "Pop Muzik" he remembers playing when it was current had both the long and short on the promo single.
Can anyone confirm this one?
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bwolfe wrote:
My PD told me that the version of "Pop Muzik" he remembers playing when it was current had both the long and short on the promo single.
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Yes, I owned a copy of the long/short promo at one time and both sides were treated to that godawful Haeco-CSG system -- where the commercial 45 & the commercial 12' were NOT Haeco-CSG processed.
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Andrew, I just read up on the Haeco-CSG processing that you mention. Given that it was developed by A&M, I think that is exactly what I was hearing on the Carpenters' "Calling Occupants..." promo 45. It sounded like things were out of phase. Totally sucks!
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Yah Shure wrote:
bwolfe wrote:
My PD told me that the version of "Pop Muzik" he remembers playing when it was current had both the long and short on the promo single.
Can anyone confirm this one? |
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May I ask a technical question here? I noticed that Exhibit A showed a 45-rpm disc that was "stereo-compatible". The opposite of this was when records used to be labeled as stereo - but playable on mono equipment.
Now how can one stereo groove be any less susceptible to damage than another, when both are played with a mono cart? If the mono cart is made to not respond to vertical movements on a stereo groove, would it not damage both of them equally?
Just when anyone has time, I'd love to hear the answer.
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To Jody:
The "Stereo-Compatible" designation on 'Exhibit A' meant in this case that the tape had been ran through the Haeco-CSG System. CSG stands for "compatible stereo generator' (NOT "compatible stereo groove").
The Haeco-CSG System pretty much shifted the left/right channels 90 degrees out-of-phase so that when the record was played on a mono system or broadcast the center-channel information wouldn't be 3db louder in respect to the hard left & right information.
Problem was, it sounded terrible in stereo with no distinct center-channel.
The old 'stereo--playable on mono equipment' designation really didn't mean much (other than the record company was trying to phase out mono records).
Andy
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
The Haeco-CSG System pretty much shifted the left/right channels 90 degrees out-of-phase so that when the record was played on a mono system or broadcast the center-channel information wouldn't be 3db louder in respect to the hard left & right information.
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Using today's digital editing tools, is there a way to undo that phase shift, or did it involve "re-mixing" the channels after the phase had been tampered with?
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The 45 version sounds great on Rhino's Just Can't Get Enough Vol. 2 (1994), with differently EQ'd digital clones on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 39 Pop Nuggets Late '70s (1995) and Time-Life's 2-CD Modern Rock Vol. 6 The '70s (1999).
The 45 version on Sire's Just Say Yesterday (1992) has a tape azimuth alignment error between the L and R channels, which screws up the soundstage and sounds terrible when summed to mono. Avoid.
The LP version is pretty hard to find on CD. I only have it on one disc, swaitek's 50-CD The A List Disc 6 (1994), where it's taken from vinyl.
The Ben Liebrand Remix was a UK hit in 1989 - that's what's on Priority's Mega-Hits Dance Classics Vol. 10 (1991).
Edited by crapfromthepast on 09 October 2014 at 8:16am
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