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The Hits Man MusicFan
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I discovered today that "Rebel Yell" is a unique single mix. It has a delay effect on his vocal in parts of the song.
Unfortunately, I lost my subscription to the database. Is this mix on CD?
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Posted: 31 August 2010 at 9:22pm | IP Logged
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It's listed on only one CD:
Rhino 79969 The Big 80's - Arena Rock
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BTW on iTunes you can find the single versions for several of Billy's 80s vinyl 45s including "Rebel Yell," "Hot In The City," "White Wedding" and "Mony Mony" (Live).
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Santi, on iTunes, is the single version of "Rebel Yell" shown as "Rebel Yell -
Single", containing "Rebel Yell (Edit)"? Have you verified this is the single,
with the delay effect as indicated here? thanks....
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davidclark wrote:
Santi, on iTunes, is the single version of "Rebel Yell" shown as "Rebel Yell -
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Yes David that is the version on iTunes I am referring to.
Perhaps David or Grant can tell us where exactly is the delay effect on his vocal so I can listen and determine if it indeed has that effect. I usually listen once (when I add songs to my iPod) and then I may not listen to it again ever so I don't recall if it did or didn't have that effect. I do know it is a full minute shorter than the LP version which is why I downloaded it a few weeks ago.
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The additional vocal effects on the 45 mix sound like
more than just standard reverb...the last word or couple
of words are actually repeated in an "ECHO, Echo, echo"
canyon-type effect. The first occurrence is at 1:25 on
the line "brought you to me babe [babe, babe repeated in
echo effect]". Again at 1:30 with an echo repeat of "by
me, by me".
This is based on the lone CD appearance of the 45 mix on
the VH-1 "Arena Rock" CD.
I never noticed this before. Thanks for pointing out
the difference!
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Roscoe wrote:
The additional vocal effects on the 45 mix sound like
more than just standard reverb...the last word or couple
of words are actually repeated in an "ECHO, Echo, echo"
canyon-type effect. The first occurrence is at 1:25 on
the line "brought you to me babe [babe, babe repeated in
echo effect]". Again at 1:30 with an echo repeat of "by
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I just listened again to the track I downloaded and I can report that it does have the echo effect as pointed out above. I also hear it again twice right before the cold ending.
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The Hits Man MusicFan
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Santi, can you tell us on exactly where you got the 45
version of Rebel Yell on iTunes? All I can find is one
Sony comp, and you have to buy the whole album for that one
track.
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The Hits Man wrote:
Santi, can you tell us on exactly where you got the 45
version of Rebel Yell on iTunes? All I can find is one
Sony comp, and you have to buy the whole album for that one
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I run a power search with Billy Idol for the artist and Rebel Yell single for the title.
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I'm pretty sure it's one of the Digital 45's.
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Found it. Thanks.
Why can't iTunes make their searches more comprehensive?
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Just an added bit of info in case it ever comes up: the echo of "babe" at 1:25 is in the left channel only, while the echo at 1:30 of "here by me" is in the right channel.
The 45 version also appears on "Now That's What I Call Music / The Millennium Series / 1984, disc 1."
I'd be curious to know if anyone's compared the fidelity between Arena Rock and Now 1984. Now 1984 has some visible hard limiting but it's not truly brick-walled.
I don't see any hard limiting on the iTunes version... but is it lossless?
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NightAire wrote:
I don't see any hard limiting on the iTunes version... but is it lossless? |
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Itunes downloads are NEVER lossless. They are 256 AAC lossy.
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It's available on Qobuz in lossless.
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The version on Now The Millennium Series 1984 (1999) appears to be digitally identical to the UK Billy Idol collection 11 Of The Best (1988), or at least the file I have in my collection that's labeled as such. (I owned Now but not 11.) It seems a little loud for 1988 mastering, but it has a nice dynamic range, no significant clipping, and a decent EQ.
The Rhino disc has a comparable dynamic range, but the EQ seems just a little muffled compared to the 11/Now mastering. I think that Rhino may not have gotten the lowest-generation source tapes for their Billy Idol tracks; "Dancing With Myself" doesn't sound that great on Like Omigod (compared with Eric's Hard To Find 45s On CD Vol. 16 More '80s Essentials And Beyond).
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