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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 13 April 2014 at 5:50pm | IP Logged
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The promo 45 that I've owned forever for this song, confirmed as
Columbia 11231, has basically identical labels on both sides. Both sides
say (and are) stereo, and both sides have a listed time of (3:58). But it
actually contains two different versions of the song, however. One side of
it has handwritten deadwax info of "ZSS 167163 1B", starts out with the
:02 second "breaking glass" intro, and runs an actual length of (3:59). The
other side of it has handwritten deadwax info of "ZSS 167164 1B", omits
the entire breaking glass intro, and runs an actual length of (3:57). Aside
from the intro, to me the two versions sound identical.
Both of my commercial 45 copies exactly mimic the with-sfx side of my
promo 45, have a listed time of (3:58) and an actual time of (3:59).
Edited by jimct on 13 April 2014 at 7:48pm
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chendagam MusicFan
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I always wondered if the radio stations cut out the glass sound effect. Now I know for sure a "radio version" does exist on this song. Thanks for posting.
Edited by chendagam on 13 April 2014 at 6:53pm
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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This is interesting... I always figured radio stations wanting to opt out of the :02 "breaking glass" intro on Billy Joel's "You May Be Right" just simply cued passed it. Good to know this is actually an official radio edit!
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chendagam MusicFan
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Just picked up my "never before played" promo copy on Ebay for 5 bucks :)
Here are some scans from the seller:
Edited by chendagam on 16 April 2014 at 6:39pm
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chendagam MusicFan
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I just got my copy in the mail and 34 years later am listening to my mint copy of this record...so cool! Has anyone clocked out the actual LP version? From memory I think it may be a few seconds longer (I remember Billy giving an "ugh ugh ugh ugh" at the very end from when I was a kid which is not on this promo 45 copy).
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Brian W. MusicFan
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Posted: 20 April 2014 at 1:52am | IP Logged
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chendagam wrote:
I just got my copy in the mail and 34 years later am listening to my mint copy of this record...so cool! Has anyone clocked out the actual LP version? From memory I think it may be a few seconds longer (I remember Billy giving an "ugh ugh ugh ugh" at the very end from when I was a kid which is not on this promo 45 copy). |
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Yeah, the 45 does fade out earlier.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Can anyone confirm the actual vinyl LP run time for "You May Be Right"?
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Paul C MusicFan
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I found it interesting that when Billy Joel performed this song on Jimmy Fallon about a month ago, the first sound you heard was that of the breaking glass.
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chendagam MusicFan
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When they do play it on the radio these days I love the feeling I get the instant I hear that glass break. Can anyone that worked in radio back in the day tell us what they did back then?
My Glass Houses CD and Greatest Hits Version clocks out at 4:09.
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Gary MusicFan
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Brian W. wrote:
chendagam wrote:
I just got my copy in the mail and 34 years later am listening to my mint copy of this record...so cool! Has anyone clocked out the actual LP version? From memory I think it may be a few seconds longer (I remember Billy giving an "ugh ugh ugh ugh" at the very end from when I was a kid which is not on this promo 45 copy). |
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Yeah, the 45 does fade out earlier. |
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Is the 45 version an early fade of the LP version, and if it is, what time on the LP Version does it start to fade?
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Hykker MusicFan
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chendagam wrote:
Can anyone that worked in radio back in
the day tell us what they did back then? |
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We played the song from a cart, no glass. I do recall
hearing a station that alternated versions, when they
played the version with the glass breaking, they'd drop in
a quick shotgun jingle between the sfx and the song.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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Gary wrote:
Is the 45 version an early fade of the LP
version, and if it is, what time on the LP Version does it
start to fade? |
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Going from the Audio Fidelity mastering, the fade starts at
3:50, immediately after the word "wrong," and ends a hair
before 4:01. The very last thing you hear is "Uh-uh!"
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Gary MusicFan
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Brian W. wrote:
Gary wrote:
Is the 45 version an early fade of the LP
version, and if it is, what time on the LP Version does it
start to fade? |
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Going from the Audio Fidelity mastering, the fade starts at
3:50, immediately after the word "wrong," and ends a hair
before 4:01. The very last thing you hear is "Uh-uh!" |
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Thanks I appreciate your help on this single.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Brian W. wrote:
Going from the Audio Fidelity mastering, the fade starts
at
3:50, immediately after the word "wrong," and ends a
hair
before 4:01. The very last thing you hear is "Uh-uh!"
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Does this fade reflect the commercial 45 or the DJ 45
with the glass shatter removed?
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Brian W. MusicFan
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eriejwg wrote:
Does this fade reflect the commercial 45 or the DJ 45
with the glass shatter removed? |
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The commercial 45.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Much appreciated, Brian. Which means, if you remove the
glass shatter, it times out to 3:57 for the DJ version
which matches the listed time in the database.
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