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Does anyone know if this particular radio friendly remix was on CD anywhere?
I know it is on vinyl as a 12inch, but this mashup was played all the time and edited down to 4 minutes for radio.
I can't find it on any promo cd's. Am I the only one who remembers this on the radio?
The DJ Edit runs about 3:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdOdXn07Mpg
The 12 inch runs about 5:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aP8tJ4xw_Y
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This was serviced on a TM Studios PrimeCuts CD in 2005, but it is lossy (from mp3) on that disc. It sounds like it probably came from a 192kbps mp3 (just a guess). This mix was a bootleg, as far as I know, and not officially released by J Records.
As a side note, I was going through a box of random CDs a couple months ago, and I came across a CD-R that simply had "Karmastition" written on it in sharpie. The sound quality was pretty bad (worse than the TM copy I have), and the disc was scratched to hell, so I tossed it. In all likelihood, it was burned by someone who worked at the station where it came from.
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aaronk wrote:
This was serviced on a TM Studios PrimeCuts CD in 2005, but it is lossy (from mp3) on that disc. It sounds like it probably came from a 192kbps mp3 (just a guess). This mix was a bootleg, as far as I know, and not officially released by J Records.
As a side note, I was going through a box of random CDs a couple months ago, and I came across a CD-R that simply had "Karmastition" written on it in sharpie. The sound quality was pretty bad (worse than the TM copy I have), and the disc was scratched to hell, so I tossed it. In all likelihood, it was burned by someone who worked at the station where it came from. |
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So does that mean other than a vinyl transfer, it's only available in lossy? I can't believe a radio airplay hit this big on so many stations only had a lossy version.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the vinyl is lossy, too. The remix is a bootleg, and the person who created it could've "mastered" it as an mp3.
You might be shocked to know that hundreds of big hits have been serviced to radio only as lossy files over the years. By the early 2000s, the internet was much faster and everyone owned a CD burner. Record company promotions departments were sometimes given the task of "pressing up" promo copies to send to radio stations. They used whatever source they had, which sometimes was just an mp3. The disc would then be sent to the music service companies, like TM, and they would rip the disc as a wav file, but it's too late. The disc was already burned using an mp3.
It's maddening for people like us who want the best possible source/sound, but we are rare. The overwhelming majority could care less and probably can't tell the difference between an mp3 and a wav file.
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Aaron,
I have found a few instances like this recently (even on Eric Records) where the digital download (7 Digital) or the CD are lossless but clearly are not. It is maddening when you want something in the best quality and it clearly was not mastered in lossless when you spectral analysis it.
I find it rare in this day and age for radio to play a bootleg, but let me tell you, it was THAT good of a bootleg that it should be on CD.
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