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Posted: 06 September 2018 at 9:45pm | IP Logged
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I was looking over the database entries for "Angel Baby" by Rosie & The Originals, and I noticed several entries that say "highly edited." Normally I just skip right over those without giving them much attention, but then I also noticed that the printed time on all 45 copies exactly match the "highly edited" CD run times, both of which are 2:45.
Does anyone have a 45 with an actual run time that matches the printed time? Pat's note in the database says 45s run 3:42, but maybe there is another pressing with a shorter version.
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Posted: 06 September 2018 at 10:24pm | IP Logged
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The original Highland 45 label was incorrect on purpose Aaron to hopefully get radio play. An old trick that the record companies tried often in the AM radio days and it worked well on many occasions including this one.
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Posted: 06 September 2018 at 11:38pm | IP Logged
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I assumed that was the case, but I thought I'd ask anyhow. I also find it coincidental that several CDs have a 2:45 run time, and I wonder where this version originates from. It can be found on comps from Time-Life, Thump, East Side Records, and even a TJL (PBS) compilation.
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Posted: 07 September 2018 at 5:34pm | IP Logged
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Aaron, that shorter edit is the UK single version. In the UK, they wisely decided to edit it much shorter. It originally appeared on an Ace CD in the early 90s ("Golden Age Of American R&R Vol 1"). Since the British tape was intact and sounded OK, a lot of US CD's used that version instead of the full U.S. version.
The U.S. master was lost many decades ago so all CD's with the full length version are from vinyl. And, some of them are edit jobs where they took the UK tape version and spliced in the missing portions from vinyl.
Lastly, I'll give my own plug: the version we worked on earlier this year for Complete 60s records is digitally extracted stereo....however when we deconstructed the mix, we used advanced SW to clean each track individually (even the tape source had some distortion present in the original recording). So if you take our stereo mix and fold it to mono you have the cleanest source for the long version anywhere...sounds like a session tape all the way thru.
I never cared for the song much...very lo-fi recording and always sounded shrill. But now it has a great warmth and presence and really like it now - not shrill at all. It sounds like Rosie is standing right in front of you.
Thanks for letting me plug :-)
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Posted: 08 September 2018 at 8:15am | IP Logged
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That explains it. Thanks to Mark and Aaron. Would the edit now be labeled UK single version in the database (instead of highly edited)?
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Posted: 08 September 2018 at 9:28am | IP Logged
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Thanks for the details, Mark! That makes total sense.
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