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jimct MusicFan
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Posted: 30 March 2007 at 1:10am | IP Logged
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My commercial 45, which is in stereo, has a listed time of (2:52), but an actual time of (2:57). PS-My other 1970 timing issue research discovery must wait for later, as Pat's system has AGAIN told me that "spamming is not permitted" (which I'm OBVIOUSLY doing!), and has locked me out, saying I must "try again later." A head-shaker, indeed, Mr. Downey - later isn't good for me; NOW is. I'm booked solid for the next couple of days. I do hours of research, and then I log in here and type in all my findings, one right after another. FYI, "Ma Belle Amie" will be added when my "spamming freeze" thaws, and I get a few minutes. Sure is bad for poster morale.......
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I hope Pat you can get this resolved, as the information you provide, Jim (and effort to do so) is so much appreciated by me and I'm sure other board members too!
Edited by davidclark on 30 March 2007 at 4:42am
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Pat Downey Admin Group
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Here is the response I got from my programmer after he read your post Jim---
"Can you get the guy to give you the exact message he's getting and under what circumstances?"
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jimct MusicFan
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Pat, when I tried to add my SIXTH "new topic" post, within about 1/2 an hour or so, I typed in all of the Tee Set info, and then hit "Post New Topic". THAT'S when the message appeared, exactly as I reported earlier. Spamming Is Not Permitted! Try Back Later!
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Does anyone have Bobby Sherman's original vinyl LP release of With Love, Bobby from 1970 on the Metromedia label? If "Julie, Do Ya Love Me" runs 2:52 on it like on the album's 1995 CD reissue (K-Tel 3429), then we're probably looking at a 45 length/LP length situation here, which should be noted in the database.
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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I just picked up the DJ 45 on this track, both the mono and stereo sides have a listed time of 2:49 and an actual time of 2:58.
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Todd Ireland MusicFan
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Thanks for passing along the info, Bill. And it's good to see the database has also been updated with vinyl LP run time info.
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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Found a different DJ copy on "Julie", this one is not mono/stereo but is mono on both sides with the B side being "Spend Some Lovin' Time".
This copy has a label time of 2:52 and the same 2:58 run time as the other DJ copy.
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Hykker MusicFan
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Bill Cahill wrote:
Found a different DJ copy on "Julie", this one is not mono/stereo but is mono on both sides with the B side being "Spend Some Lovin' Time". |
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How about a 3rd version of the promo? Mine is as you described, except it's stereo. No stereo designation on the label though.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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With the 45 length at 2:58 and the LP length at 2:52, am
I to presume the LP just fades earlier than the 45?
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MMathews MusicFan
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Yes, the LP just fades earlier.
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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FYI so far I've only found one mix on this song, the mono DJ copies appear to be a fold down of the stereo, on all copies that I have
the level dips slightly as the final chorus starts, as if the mixer realized that the song was building to be too loud. The 45s that I
have, mono and stereo, all sync up to the same speed and fade out completely at the same point (it's very low for a while at the end and
the audio just cuts out.. or stops. you have to crank it to hear that). The Greatest Hits Vinyl is slightly slower, I don't have the
original album but I do have the CD of that album, which runs a little faster than the 45. So there are speed differences but they
probably weren't on purpose. Side note: I always found it entertaining that the vinyl was titled "Greatest Hits Volume 1", and of course
they took off the "Volume 1" notation in the CD era.
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MMathews MusicFan
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I should note that some later pressings of the stock 45 fade at 2:52 like the LP. I was very annoyed by that when I pulled one for reference.
I can provide deadwax#'s if needed.
MM
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TomDiehl1 MusicFan
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MMathews wrote:
I should note that some
later pressings of the stock 45 fade at
2:52 like the LP. I was very annoyed by
that when I pulled one for reference.
I can provide deadwax#'s if needed.
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Please do. It will be a little while
before I can check on what copies I might
have.
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mark, can you provide the deadwax information for the later
2:52 length 45 version..
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MMathews MusicFan
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Ok my bad. When i posted my (2:52) time I had only
listened to the fade on my own 45 dub at regular volume.
After a buddy sent me his (2:57) timed copy, I realized
you have to turn up the end a bit to hear it. It's pretty
apparent that the intended length was 2:52 as the normal
balanced fade ends there, then the music moves over mostly
to the left channel and a "bleed" of the music continues
at the same volume from 2:52 to 2:57 when the tape runs
out. But since music is audible, the actual time is
(2:57) and so is my copy.
Edited by MMathews on 11 May 2017 at 10:29pm
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