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Pat:
In the 10th edition, the various artist CD Body Talk - Romantic Moments (Time-Life R834-18) shows Timmy T's "One More Try" with a run time of 3:13. This is at least :14 shorter than on all other CD releases, including the commercial single. Do you know if this 3:13 version is a remix, an edit, an early fade, or simply sped way up?
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Hmm. My old, old German CD single for this has a 3:29 version and what they call "Slow Version" at 5:12. Maybe the 3:13 version was on the promo???
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I saw a promo DJ CD copy once for "One More Try" (I almost bought it) and it contained the same track listing as on the cassette single: 1) Radio Version/Vocal (3:28); and 2) Original Version (5:28). The Radio Version/Vocal is the hit version that also appears on Timmy T's Time After Time CD (Quality 15103). The Original Version is a much different mix and much slower. (This may be the "Slow Version" on Brian's CD. I've never heard it played on the radio.)
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I can answer one part of this question and that is the version of "One More Try" on Time-Life R834-18 - Body Talk: Romantic Moments is not the hit version as found on the Timmy T cd "Time After Time". It is a slower version and my guess is that it is an edit of the "Original Version" but since I don't have the cd single I can't tell for sure. For now I will just say it is "neither the 45 nor LP version".
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I can add a little info here.
The "hit" version of "One More Try" runs about 3:28 and has a synthy backing track that runs about 75 BPM. It turns up as the A-side of the commercial 45 ("Radio Version" - printed and actual 3:28). The commercial 45 is just black printing on a white background, on both sides, with no Quality Records logo anywhere. As far as I know, this was the first (only?) big hit for the Canadian Quality label in the US - to me, they were best known for their line of low-end compilation CDs in Canada.
The "hit" version is also on:- Hitmakers Volume 46, December 7, 1990 (printed 3:30, actual 3:28) - the best sound quality out of all I've heard, although the EQ is excessively bright and the peaks are clipped
- Time After Time (Quality USCDL15103-2, 1990, printed 3:39, actual 3:28) - sound is quite muffled due to poor EQ, no clipping
- Hot Hits Vol. 4 (no printed time, actual 3:28) - sound quality nearly identical to that on Time After Time
The B-side of the commercial 45 is another version of "One More Try", labelled "Original Version" (printed 5:18, actual 5:10). This is a completely different recording of the song, although with a similar synthy backing track. It runs at 64 BPM, which is significantly slower than the 75 BPM of the "Radio Version" on the A-side. (It's so slow, in fact, that I find it very hard to sit through.) This version can't be created from the hit version, and never got any national airplay. The "Original Version" may have gotten some airplay locally in California, where it was first a regional hit before it went national; don't know for sure.
There's a third version that turns up on two of my compilations that's yet another completely different recording. This is just Timmy singing over a simple piano backing track, with no synths at all. It's an entirely new vocal take, so it's not a remix of any existing version. It turns up on:- Living In The 90s (Razor & Tie S22-18601, 1995, actual 3:13)
- Body Talk - Romantic Moments (Time-Life R834-18, 1998, actual 3:13; digitally exactly 0.1 dB louder than Living In The 90s)
I don't know where this third version originally came from; it never got any airplay in 1991 when the song was a hit.
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My promo CD single (Quality CD Promo 15114-2) has the following:
1-Radio Version (listed & actual 3:28)
2-Original Version (listed 5:18; actual 5:13)
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my commercial cassingle issued as quality 15114 states on the cassingle's sleeve and face "radio version" (vocal) (3:28) on side 1 and "original version" (5:18) on side 2......it's interesting that the "origianl version" is NOWHERE to be found on cd....puzzling!...if it was original, was it THAT bad that they never issued it commercially!
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I think the "original version" was on the flip side of Timmy T's 12-inch single "Time After Time" (released before he had a real 'record deal'.
I suspect some radio programmers sensed the 'hit potential' in the B-side if reworked to more contemporary radio trends.
Andy
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As Ron mentioned earlier there's a significant change in EQ
between the Radio Version from the promo CD single versus the
track on Time After Time. It's not subtle. Would this
constitute as a LP/45 difference?
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To Prisdeej:
I'm not convinced the "Radio Version" is simply the album
version with a lot of extra high-end. I think it's actually
a different MIX (it's so drastically brighter) so that
would (in my estimation) warrant a LP/45 difference.
Andy
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I would vote "Yes" for a 45/LP Difference even if the only difference was a brighter EQ. It's still worth mentioning even if it was given a notation
of the LP and Single Versions being the same.
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
To Prisdeej:
I'm not convinced the "Radio Version" is simply the album
version with a lot of extra high-end. I think it's actually
a different MIX (it's so drastically brighter) so that
would (in my estimation) warrant a LP/45 difference.
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I suspected the Radio Version was a remix! Does anyone
know how to do the null test to see if they cancel out?
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