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Even though not in the database, "It's In The Way That You Use It" hit #2 on the Mainstream Rock chart.
45 label says 3:33, LP version runs 4:09 or so. Does any know, or has anyone created, the 45 version from the LP?
Edit(s)/fade times?
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eriejwg wrote:
| Even though not in the database, "It's In The Way That You Use It" hit #2 on the Mainstream Rock chart. |
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For the record, that song actually hit #1 (for one week) on Billboard's Album (Mainstream) Rock Tracks chart.
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Paul:
Thanks for the correction, as Wikipedia was used as a quick source. And, we all know how correct that is... ;)
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Anybody know the official 7" single length, and if there are any edit points or any remix to the single version?
The album version I have been using runs 4:10, but just got a copy of the soundtrack to "The Color Of Money" (MCA Records, MCAD-6189) and it's 4:00. There are no edits; it's a 10-second-early fade.
Also of minor interest: both the cover & the CD label of the soundtrack title the song "It's In The Way You Use It" while every other copy I can find calls it "It's In The Way THAT You Use It."
Does anybody know if there really WAS a 3:33 single edit?
Edited by NightAire on 01 June 2012 at 1:36am
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Gene,
My 45 does time out to 3:33. Dub coming your way...
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AWESOME. Thanks. If it's anything other than an early fade, I'll post my findings here.
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EDIT: It IS a different mix! ...Although the differences are subtle... there appear to be horn "blasts" in the chorus that aren't on the version on the soundtrack.
(Amusingly, there ARE the horn blasts on the soundtrack version after the key change, but NOT on the single... then they show up again the fade... obnoxious.)
There may be other minor mix differences, but the first most-obvious difference happens at one minute in: "It's the way that you use it!" *BLAT* "It comes and it goes..."
Anybody know if this single mix has ever made it to CD? (I haven't checked the August album yet but if you believe the sample on Amazon, it is NOT the single mix.)
It's as if the producers had to justify charging the label for a single mix: "we'll just put them IN, here, and pull them OUT, here!" "Genius, Clark!!!" :-)
Edited by NightAire on 02 June 2012 at 12:04am
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Gene... I assume the 4:10 version you mentioned is the same as the one
included on The Clapton Chronicles. Is the mix on that version similar
to either the soundtrack or 45 version? I only ask because there are horn
blasts throughout the 4:10 version on Chronicles (including at the one
minute mark).
Edited by mstgator on 03 June 2012 at 12:34pm
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Actually, I was referring to the version on August... but listening back to the "August" version now, I hear the horns which match the single version!
I need to do a complete documentation of what is on which Clapton release... I'll do so and get back to this thread...
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OK, I think I now know what's what:
ALBUM VERSION: Appears on both "August" and "Chronicles" and are digital clones (except "Chronicles" has been digitally clipped to make it several db louder). This has horn "blats" at 1:00, 1:10, 1;20, 2:00, 2:05, 2:10, 2:14, 2:38, 2:48, 3:16, 3:19, 3:21, 3:25, 3:35, 3:38, 3:40, 3:45, and into the fade.
SINGLE VERSION: Identical to album version with early fade, starting about 3:17, gone by 3:33. Don't know if this version has appeared on CD, but it's an easy creation from either album version above.
Then we get to the odd man out...
SOUNDTRACK VERSION: It is the same take as the above versions, but there are several differences. horn "blats" happen at 2:38, 2:48, 2:57, 3:07, 3:16, 3:26, 3:35, 3:45 & 3:54.
The rhythm guitar is mixed slightly lower than the album / single mix.
The keyboard is mixed slightly higher than the album / single mix.
There appears to be a little more reverb on the horn "blats" and the keyboard than the album / single mix.
Clapton's high harmony part is mixed slightly higher than the album / single mix.
The other trumpet notes between the "blats", the "solo" for the horns at the end of the song, is gone. Only the "blats" remain.
The bass, more specifically the kick drum is... out of phase with the album / single mix? It doesn't sound wrong by itself, but with the album / single mix in one ear and the soundtrack mix in the other, it's like the headphones kick -out- instead of -in-. The rest of the mix seems to match the phasing of the album version.
There may be a handful of other differences, but these are the main ones I detected.
I'm not sure about the Clapton CDs, but looking at the soundtrack, it says the track was "produced by Tom Dowd."
The CD says "(P) 1986 Warner Bros. Records, Inc." while the liner notes mark the 5th track (by Mark Knopfler) as being WB.
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Thanks for the comparison notes!
I still find it baffling that this never even touched the Hot 100, despite being
featured in a hit movie, a video that was all over MTV, and with a hook that
fit in easily with everything else on pop radio in 1986/87. The only
reasonable explanation would be if it hadn't been released as a commercial
single (making it ineligible to chart), which obviously wasn't the case.
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You're welcome... and I have NO explanation for why it didn't hit the pop charts. Baffling, indeed!
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mstgator wrote:
I still find it baffling that this never even touched the
Hot 100, despite being
featured in a hit movie, a video that was all over MTV,
and with a hook that
fit in easily with everything else on pop radio in
1986/87. The only
reasonable explanation would be if it hadn't been
released as a commercial
single (making it ineligible to chart), which obviously
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This song seemed to have trouble finding support at
radio, but I'm not sure why. I remember seeing the video
quite often on MTV, but don't recall hearing it on my
local top 40 station at all. Like you said, it had the
advantages of the movie tie-in and good video exposure,
not to mention a brand name artist, good hooks and very
commercial production. Definitely one of the more
puzzling cases of a non-hit from the 80s.
I appreciate this thread because it explains why the
soundtrack version never sounded quite "right" to me
(i.e. the mix is different although the mastering isn't
very good on the soundtrack CD). The version on "August"
sounds the best to me.
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My local CHR played it - WHMP, Northampton, MA. Don't know whether any large market CHRs played it, though. It was one of the few tunes to hit #1 AOR in Billboard and not make the hot 100 in the 80s - there were 8 - 4 had no commercial single attached.
1. Robert Plant - Other Arms (no single)
2. Bruce Springsteen - Trapped (no single)
3. Eric Clapton - It's In The Way That You Use It
Duck 28514
4. Pink Floyd - On The Turning Away Columbia 07660
5. Robert Plant - Heaven Knows Esparanza 99373
6. Little Feat - Hate To Lose Your Lovin' Warner
27728
7. REM - Orange Crush (no single)
8. Stevie Ray Vaughn - Crossfire (no single)
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