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Posted: 14 March 2013 at 7:24pm | IP Logged Quote edtop40

does anyone know which christmas cd contains the 45 version
of perry como's hit '(there's no place like) home for the
hoildays?....the vinyl 45 version has no listed run time,
but actually runs 2:49...i have a cdr version that runs
2:41 that is in stereo and is NOT the same version as the
vinyl 45 issued as rca victor 5950....any direction would
be welcomed...

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Posted: 14 March 2013 at 8:52pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

The file I have, from Now That's What They Call
Christmas!
is mono and runs 2:49.
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Posted: 14 March 2013 at 8:54pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

That should say, "Now That's What I Call Christmas."
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Posted: 16 March 2013 at 6:48am | IP Logged Quote edtop40

thanks to john, he provided me with the proper file that
matches my vinyl 45 perfectly....thanks john...

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Posted: 14 November 2023 at 1:52pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

10 years later, and I have a question since I don't
remember which version was on Ed's 45. Was the 1954 version
considered the hit version or the version Perry recorded in
1959?

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Posted: 14 November 2023 at 5:53pm | IP Logged Quote PopArchivist

eriejwg wrote:
10 years later, and I have a question since I don't
remember which version was on Ed's 45. Was the 1954 version
considered the hit version or the version Perry recorded in
1959?


I think it is the one in 1959.

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This seems to be kind of like a "White Christmas" by Bing Crosby situation. There's a 1942 version and a 1947 version and I believe
it's the '47 version that's played and commonly released on CD. Also Nat King Cole's "The Christmas Song". I think the original
version was recorded/released in 1946 and then re-recorded in 1961, with the latter version being the more commonly heard and
released version. Harry Simeone Chorale's "The Little Drummer Boy" I believe also had the same thing happen, original from 1958 and
then re-recorded in 1965 (I think?).

Never heard the 1954 version by Perry and the 1958 version of The Harry Simeone song. Does anyone know if they're available on CD
anywhere?



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Posted: 14 November 2023 at 7:00pm | IP Logged Quote Santi Paradoa

Both the 1954 version of "Home For The Holidays" and the 1958 version of "The Little Drummer Boy" are on this Hit Parade CD:

https://www.ericrecords.com/AmazingStereoXmas.html

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Posted: 14 November 2023 at 7:11pm | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

Thanks for the info Santi!

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Posted: 14 November 2023 at 11:40pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

The 1954 version of "There's No Place Like Home for the Holidays" is the hit version, because it's the only version that charted. It's easy to recognize as it's all up-tempo and starts with a big brass flourish. The 1959 version
starts out as a slow ballad.

The hit version of "The Little Drummer Boy" is the 1959 version. It's on the "Little Drummer Boy" album from Casablanca/Polygram. I also have it on North Star/Sony "Crooner's Christmas."

The hit original hit version of "The Christmas Song" is the 1946 version and it hasn't been on very many CDs. It sounds pretty good on the 1999 Capitol remaster of his "The Christmas Song" CD (it's a bonus track there). I think that
uses the same master as the version on "The Classic Singles" box. The 1953 re-recording is seldom heard these days, but it's all that was heard on jukeboxes for many, many years, as from 1953 on it was the only version available on
45. The 1961 stereo re-recording, done for "The Nat King Cole Story" box set, which featured stereo re-recordings of all his hits, has now become the classic version.

The original hit version of Gene Autry's "Frosty the Snowman" is rare on CD. It's a different take than what is usually reissued. I've been aware of its existence for years, but I always thought that the common version was the hit
and this "different" version was an alternate take. Nope! It's the other way around.

It's available on CD on Time-Life's "Your Hit Parade - Christmas Memories" and GSC-Sony's 4-disc "Christmas Songs to Remember." Instantly recognizable by the lyrical difference: the 45 version has "and his eyes made out of coal." The
now-standard alternate take has "and TWO eyes made out of coal." I actually think the common take is better, but I checked a vintage 78 on Archive.org as well as a 45 dub from the 78Prof on YouTube, and the "his eyes" take appears to
be the original hit version. I don't think it's ever been issued on any Gene Autry CD, only on a handful of V/A compilations.




Edited by Brian W. on 14 November 2023 at 11:41pm
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Several years ago Real Gone Music released a 3-CD set:
Complete RCA Christmas Collection. This contains all of his
Christmas songs, including some unreleased. The sound
quality is amazing! Taking the earliest recording from 1946
and cleaning them up made this set the best Christmas package
I ever purchased!
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Posted: 15 November 2023 at 12:29pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Brian W. wrote:
The 1954 version of "There's No Place
Like Home for the Holidays" is the hit version, because
it's the only version that charted. It's easy to
recognize as it's all up-tempo and starts with a big
brass flourish. The 1959 version
starts out as a slow ballad.

The hit version of "The Little Drummer Boy" is the 1959
version. It's on the "Little Drummer Boy" album from
Casablanca/Polygram. I also have it on North Star/Sony
"Crooner's Christmas."

The hit original hit version of "The Christmas Song" is
the 1946 version and it hasn't been on very many CDs. It
sounds pretty good on the 1999 Capitol remaster of his
"The Christmas Song" CD (it's a bonus track there). I
think that
uses the same master as the version on "The Classic
Singles" box. The 1953 re-recording is seldom heard these
days, but it's all that was heard on jukeboxes for many,
many years, as from 1953 on it was the only version
available on
45. The 1961 stereo re-recording, done for "The Nat King
Cole Story" box set, which featured stereo re-recordings
of all his hits, has now become the classic version.

The original hit version of Gene Autry's "Frosty the
Snowman" is rare on CD. It's a different take than what
is usually reissued. I've been aware of its existence
for years, but I always thought that the common version
was the hit
and this "different" version was an alternate take. Nope!
It's the other way around.

It's available on CD on Time-Life's "Your Hit Parade -
Christmas Memories" and GSC-Sony's 4-disc "Christmas
Songs to Remember." Instantly recognizable by the lyrical
difference: the 45 version has "and his eyes made out of
coal." The
now-standard alternate take has "and TWO eyes made out of
coal." I actually think the common take is better, but I
checked a vintage 78 on Archive.org as well as a 45 dub
from the 78Prof on YouTube, and the "his eyes" take
appears to
be the original hit version. I don't think it's ever been
issued on any Gene Autry CD, only on a handful of V/A
compilations.




Thank you for the detailed background on these classics!
This helps me ensure I have the hit versions in my
library.

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The 1953 re-recording is seldom heard these days, but it's all that was heard on jukeboxes for many, many years, as from 1953 on it was
the only version available on 45.


Thank you very much for all this information, Brian. Do you know if the 1953 re-recording of "The Christmas Song" has ever been on CD?

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Posted: 29 November 2023 at 9:58am | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

thecdguy wrote:
Thank you very much for all this
information, Brian. Do you know if the 1953 re-recording of
"The Christmas Song" has ever been on CD?


I have it on the CD "Cole, Christmas and Kids," but the
database here is showing it's available on at least 10
different CDs.

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