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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 16 March 2014 at 11:09am | IP Logged
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Kenny Rogers tracks don't turn up on many compilations. If they do, be suspect. All Time-Life discs that include "Lady" have a run time of about 3:44, and include the rerecorded version from Reprise's 20 Great Years. Avoid.
The Kenny Rogers single-artist discs that include the hit version of "Lady" all run about 3:51.
Liberty's Greatest Hits (copyright 1981) has absurdly low volume levels, with about 12 dB of headroom for "Lady". Not good.
Curb's Greatest Country Hits (1990) has its left and right channels swapped, and sounds kinda bad overall. Avoid.
Ten Best Series (1991) sounds really nice, and is my choice for this song.
42 Ultimate Hits (2004) has a slightly smiley-face EQ compared to Ten Best, but is a good second-choice for "Lady".
Edited by crapfromthepast on 18 March 2014 at 7:04am
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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 17 May 2020 at 11:26am | IP Logged
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I love the song, but always felt it lacked in mastering. I agree the Ten Best Series does sound the best.With his passing this year for those who want his best, the 42 ultimate hits is a great collection...
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 17 May 2020 at 12:41pm | IP Logged
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In a later post, I discovered that the mastering on Ten Best Series is taken from 25 Greatest Hits, which is a much better collection.
See this thread.
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PopArchivist MusicFan
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Posted: 17 May 2020 at 6:01pm | IP Logged
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Ron,
I don't think there is any better remastering on any later comps than the one from 25 greatest hits right? At least to my knowledge.
For such a huge hit your point about it not being represented much in various artists comps is an astute observation. Time Life ignored it even though it was the #1 hit of the year and probably one of the most well known songs of the very early 80's period.
Edited by PopArchivist on 17 May 2020 at 6:04pm
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LunarLaugh MusicFan
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Posted: 18 May 2020 at 1:43am | IP Logged
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Most, if not all, of Kenny Roger's Liberty catalog is
terribly represented on CD. All of them sound like they
are sourced from high generation tapes, leaving a lot to
be desired. The original vinyl sounded excellent by
comparison.
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That’s interesting. I did an A/B with a few early ‘80s songs and found
that the original 45s sounded just as bad as the CD versions. I can
only speak for a few songs—not the entire catalog.
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LunarLaugh MusicFan
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The 45s are probably bad as they tended to be cut louder
and in most cases were sourced from EQ'd/compressed
cutting masters.
I was referring to the vinyl LPs.
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I have always wondered about how Kenny Rogers was almost
always re-recording all his old tunes for CD. Was this a
choice the artist or the record company(s) made?
I wasn't impressed by any of it. Having grown up on and
lived through the original radio versions, I always felt
the new recordings lost a great amount of the style
Kenny was so famous for.
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AutumnAarilyn MusicFan
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Posted: 14 June 2020 at 5:47pm | IP Logged
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It's usually the artist's idea to re-record their hits.
The original label typically has a no-compete clause
where the artist can not re-record songs for a set
number of years.
The artist's new label can recommend doing this but most
often re-recordings are issued by 'gray market' labels.
Artist royalties from old hits on the former label are
often little if anything at all.
Edited by AutumnAarilyn on 14 June 2020 at 5:48pm
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