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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 10 April 2016 at 10:28am | IP Logged
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CRTP (Ron G) sent me the single version of "Never Surrender" by Corey Hart and I'm hearing a slight glitch at the (1:06) mark that I don't hear on the longer album version. I believe that Ron's source is Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 23 1984-85 on the Time-Life label. So, does anybody else have the shorter 45 version and if so, do you hear this glitch at the (1:06) mark? I'd like to get a copy without the glitch, if possible, or am I just hearing things???
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 10 April 2016 at 12:41pm | IP Logged
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Paul, I must have recreated the single version at some
point but I only have it as a 320 bitrate mp3.
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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Posted: 10 April 2016 at 12:45pm | IP Logged
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That's odd Paul. I have that disc and I do not hear a glitch at that point in the song.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 10 April 2016 at 6:59pm | IP Logged
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Good ears, Paul!
With headphones, I can hear a small dropout in both channels around 1:06. I didn't notice it when listening in speakers, though.
I don't have the 45 version on any other CDs, so I can't tell if there's a problem with the 45 master tape, or the mastering for the Time-Life disc.
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 11 April 2016 at 3:24am | IP Logged
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Glad I'm not hearing things! So, does anybody here have one of the other CDs that contains the single version and if so, does it have the glitch? It's one of those things, once I hear it, I can't un-hear it.
Edited by Paul Haney on 11 April 2016 at 3:24am
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RichM921 MusicFan
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Posted: 13 April 2016 at 9:23pm | IP Logged
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I have three copies of the single version: A needle drop of the 45, a
copy from the TM Century GoldDisc, and a copy from an unidentified
source. I cannot hear any glitch at 1:06. Either my copies don't have
them or my hearing is shot (which is entirely possible too!)
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Posted: 14 April 2016 at 10:08am | IP Logged
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I listened to the actual 45 and don't hear the glitch.
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NightAire MusicFan
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The database labels them "45 version" and "LP version." Are they "versions" or are they just "lengths?" To my ears it just sounds like an early fade. Am I missing something?
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Gene - It's one edit and an early fade.
The edit is around 1:41 and deletes 16 beats from the LP version. I'm not sure exactly where the edit is (downbeat? snare?), and can't analyze things right now because I'm at work.
Hope that helps for now.
Edited by crapfromthepast on 26 March 2021 at 8:53am
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NightAire MusicFan
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Ron, you're right!! (Also, I've been playing just an early fade of the LP version!) :-o
On my copy, I took it out starting in the beat at 1:40.5 and ending at 1:49.7... this was after trimming the silence at the end. I based this on a YouTube video that I found but the quality is too poor for me to be confident exactly where the edit point is on the original single.
I learn something new every day... :-)
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