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Posted: 27 August 2023 at 11:21am \| IP Logged

Off topic but this song listed in Whitburn's 1950 annual listing does not appear to exist. I've searched everywhere.

Anyone have it, know where it is or can find a 78/45 of it?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted: 27 August 2023 at 12:03pm \| IP Logged

PopArchivist wrote:

Off topic but this song listed in Whitburn's 1950 annual listing does not appear to
exist. I've searched everywhere.

Anyone have it, know where it is or can find a 78/45 of it?

Thanks in advance.

Don't bother looking for it...it's a copyright trap that doesn't exist.

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Posted: 27 August 2023 at 12:25pm \| IP Logged

Paul Haney wrote:

Don't bother looking for it...it's a copyright trap that doesn't exist.

I sort of wondered why it didn't exist ANYWHERE. Thank you. I take it that it helped Mr. Whitburn catch people?

Edited by PopArchivist on 27 August 2023 at 12:25pm

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Posted: 27 August 2023 at 8:04pm \| IP Logged

Disappointing... with a title like "Bewitched," I was looking forward to adding it to my Halloween station. :-D

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Posted: 29 August 2023 at 5:02am \| IP Logged

Wild.

Can anyone point out any other examples?

(No, "Ready 'N' Steady" by D.A. doesn't count...)

Andy

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Posted: 29 August 2023 at 9:40am \| IP Logged

Coincidentally, I recently came across another copyright
trap listed in Wikipedia for the rock band Charlie:

"Note that in earlier editions of Joel Whitburn's
Billboard chart books, a Charlie album called Fifth Flight
is listed as having charted in 1981 at #99. This album did
not exist, and never charted its inclusion in Whitburn's
book is either an error or a deliberate copyright trap. In
any event, later editions of Whitburn's books (post-2006)
make no mention of it."

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Posted: 29 August 2023 at 10:00am \| IP Logged

AndrewChouffi wrote:

Wild.

Can anyone point out any other examples?

(No, "Ready 'N' Steady" by D.A. doesn't count...)

Andy

There are a few more sprinkled in various books over the years. I know them all, but it's more fun when people find
them for themselves.

For the record, I was never a fan of them and most have since been purged from subsequent editions.

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FrankG wrote:

Coincidentally, I recently came across another copyright
trap listed in Wikipedia for the rock band Charlie:

"Note that in earlier editions of Joel Whitburn's Billboard chart books, a Charlie album called Fifth
Flight is listed as having charted in 1981 at #99. This album
did not exist, and never charted its inclusion in
Whitburn's book is either an error or a deliberate copyright trap.
In any event, later editions of Whitburn's books (post-2006)
make no mention of it."

Yep, that's one!

Edited by Paul Haney on 29 August 2023 at 10:01am

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Paul Haney wrote:

There are a few more sprinkled in various books over the years. I know them all, but it's more fun when people find them for themselves.

Yea when we can't find the track anywhere Paul I will remember to email you first about it. Did Joel really worry about people breaking copyright on his work that he had to throw in fake chart hits to ward them off?

PS A copyright trap in a 1950 annual listing? I'm probably one of the few here who noticed it since I was trying to collect every 50's annual hit....

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Posted: 30 August 2023 at 4:19am \| IP Logged

Copyright traps are common in reference works, but as I said, I was never a fan of putting them into the Record
Research books. I always felt that most of our readers would see them as "mistakes" and therefore they would reflect
poorly on the books overall. In the end, we never did find anybody who copied those fictitious entries to any great
extent, thus defeating the whole purpose of putting them in the books in the first place (and why we subsequently
removed them). While we always strive for perfect accuracy, with the millions of data points in a typical Record
Research book, some minor typos or typesetting errors are bound to occur. I wish our customers could see some of the
initial printouts I run and then how much effort goes into proofing and editing the final product. Which is why we're
sometimes late on our initial projections for getting a project done on time.

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Posted: 30 August 2023 at 3:32pm \| IP Logged

I don't know if it was intended as a 'copyright trap', but the
sixth edition of The Billboard Book Of Top 40 Hits
includes Florian Zabach's version of "When The White Lilacs
Bloom Again" and indicates that it reached #40. The song
actually only reached #50 and is not included in any other
edition I own.

Edited by Paul C on 30 August 2023 at 3:34pm

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Posted: 31 August 2023 at 4:49am \| IP Logged

Paul C wrote:

That's another one! I was very unhappy with that one as it changed data for an actual
record and not one that was totally made up like the others.

Funny story (which gets back to the original topic)...When Joel was putting all the songs
from the Pop Hits book on his hard drive, I got a frantic call one day that he couldn't
find "Bewitched" by Mindy Carson! I had to remind him that it was a "plant" and we both
got a good chuckle out of it.

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Posted: 05 September 2023 at 8:38am \| IP Logged

I think there is another one in 2002. Forgot which one Paul, but its there. Doesn't exist either.

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Posted: 05 September 2023 at 8:41am \| IP Logged

PopArchivist wrote:

I think there is another one in 2002. Forgot which one
Paul, but its there. Doesn't exist either.

That would be "Who U Been Wit" by Lil' Joe. Totally made up and no longer in our
database, so it won't be in any future books.

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