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Paul C MusicFan
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Posted: 12 March 2012 at 3:44pm | IP Logged
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In his review of the Rhino CD, The Best Of Jimmie Rodgers, in his 1991 publication, A Guide To Oldies On Compact Disc, Mike Callahan states that the song 'Are You Really Mine' is an alternate take. I've compared my U.S. commercial 45 with the CD and the two takes are definitely different.
A couple of differences I detect: When I listen to the percussion in the first ten seconds of the song, I hear one percussion tap between drum beats on the 45, but two on the Rhino CD. The manner in which he sings the repeated words 'really mine' near the very end of the song is also noticeably different.
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Brian W. MusicFan
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Posted: 26 March 2012 at 2:21pm | IP Logged
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I just bought an import CD comp that had "Are You Really Mine" in mono, hoping that it would be the 45 version. But it's the alternate take. The difference is obvious from the very first line, judging from the 78 rpm single someone posted on YouTube.
On the 45 version, the first line is sung:
"You tell me that YOU love me, and ya tell me that you want me."
On the alternate take, it's sung:
"You tell me that YA love me, and ya tell me that you want me."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBzpDu5Yw5o&feature=fvsr
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edtop40 MusicFan
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Posted: 06 May 2013 at 6:09pm | IP Logged
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my commercial 45 for the jimmie rodgers song 'are you
really mine' issued as roulette 4090 states the runs time
on the label as 2:20 but actually runs 2:23.....you'll
need
to slow down the 'best of' cd version by about 0:08 and
then fade from 2:17 to 2:23 of the slowed down version to
effectively re-create the vinyl 45 version.....i'm not so
sure it's an alternate take.....i had to drop the bpms
from around 103 to approximately 96.5 bpm to match the
pitch of the vinyl 45....if you slow down the cd
version and do an A/B comparison they sound pretty close
to
me, except for the mono/stereo differences....brian, do
you
need a copy of my re-creation to compare to the vinyl 45
i
sent you?
Edited by edtop40 on 06 May 2013 at 6:12pm
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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Posted: 06 May 2013 at 8:56pm | IP Logged
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My Roulette 45 (purchased in 1958) and the Rhino CD track from The Best Of Jimmie Rodgers are definitely different takes. Here are two additional vocal differences:
Opening verse:
45: "You tell me that you love me and ya tell me that you want me and youevenwear my granduation ring."
Rhino CD: "You tell me that ya love me and ya tell me that you want me and you evenwear my graduation ring."
There's a definite break between "you" and "evenwear" on the Rhino track. It actually sounds like there's a tape splice at that point, but the break is unmistakable.
Second verse:
45: "You call me every morning and ya see me every evening and ya swear that I'm the only one for you."
Rhino CD: "You call me every morning and ya see me every evening and ya swear that I'm the only one f-o-o-o-ryou."
On the single, the words "for" and "you" are distinct from one another. On the Rhino CD, Jimmie extends the word "for" as he slides down in pitch before blending it seamlessly into "you."
Deadwax on my Roulette 4090 45: 7-3-58 (hand-etched) 45 13125 (machine-stamped) machine-stamped "3" on its side, resembling a "W"
Edited by Yah Shure on 06 May 2013 at 9:04pm
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