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Brian W.
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The Hits Man wrote:
jebsib wrote:
I understand from Brian W's thread that
this version only exists on original UK CD copies; ...
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I do not have the disc on hand, but I ripped all of my CDs
to hard drives, and I just played it. I have an original
U.S. pressing made in Terre Haute, IN, and the disc does
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Actually, what I said was that it was on all original pressings of the CD, but that I thought it might never have been replaced on some of the European imports.
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Pat Downey wrote:
| Well I guess there is some doubt as to what is the 45 version and what is the LP version. My original "Bad" cd included the spoken introduction (US pressing) and the commercial 45 contains the spoken introduction but the cd version (US pressing) was quickly changed to eliminate the spoken introduction so I am guessing that the majority of the cd's pressed to date do not include the spoken introduction. With this in mind, perhaps we should take a poll on how may think the 45 version and LP version are the same. |
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Ok, here's my take on this... Currently, all database CD appearances of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" contain either an "LP version" or a "DJ 45 version" comment. At first glance, this would automatically suggest to me that the 45 version has never been issued on CD. However, we do know that the LP version appearances in the database are identical to the 45 version. So in my opinion, you cannot list one version without the other.
Since all pressings of the Bad CD share the same catalog number, I would combine it into one database entry and state the comment like this...
(4:11) Epic 40600 Bad (early pressings of this CD feature the commercial 45 and original LP version running 4:23; all subsequent pressings contain the DJ 45 version and run 4:11)
Meanwhile, the remaining CDs containing an "LP version" comment could be revised to state something like: "commercial 45 and original LP version as found on early pressings of Bad album".
Anyone agree? Disagree?
Edited by Todd Ireland on 27 December 2010 at 9:25pm
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Brian W.
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I agree, but maybe something shorter like "(45/original LP version)" and (DJ/remastered LP Version)
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Pat, in many song's cases, you have left most CD entries blank but included the occasional odd CD entry like "live version" or "dj 45 version" or "neither the 45 or LP version". I think the simplest case for this song, after giving it more thought and reading the most recent responses above, is to take a similar approach here and do the following:
* Under the song's header, say something like: "The commercial 45 and original LP version are the same and run 4:23. The dj 45 edits out the spoken intro and runs 4:11."
* For the "Bad" CD, write exactly as Todd says:
(4:11) Epic 40600 Bad (ear ly pressings of this CD feature the commercial 45 and original LP version running 4:23; all subsequent pressings contain the DJ 45 version and run 4:11)
* For all 4:23 entries, give no detailed descriptor.
* For all other 4:11 versions (besides "Bad"), write "dj 45 version".
Since the 45 and original LP versions are the same, it seems like this would be the simplest approach, and I don't think anyone would be confused about what version would be on a CD. Plus, I think you've taken a similar approach for other songs.
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I agree with your final assessment, Gordon. And like you said, it's also consistent with how the database has dealt with other similar situations.
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Quick question: Does anyone remember what intro radio
used for this song? I don't remember hearing the spoken
intro on the radio at all, and my memory is that even the
radio edit with the long fade-in intro was cut out by
some stations. I seem to remember it starting on the
radio where the spoken intro would end. Does anyone else
remember hearing it that way?
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Brian W.
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No, the promo CD single did not have the spoken intro,
it had the instrumental backing to the intro instead.
And it was later removed from the album version as well,
as early as 1988. I always thought the spoken intro was
dreadful.
Edited by Brian W. on 19 February 2020 at 2:54pm
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WAY back in the day (mid 90s) an uncle of mine lent me
their CD of "BAD" so I could dup down "Leave Me Alone"
on to a cassette for myself (still really enjoy that
song). I distinctly remember hearing the whisper intro
of "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" on that CD when
listening to it in the car before I returned it to my
uncle and being surprised because I had only heard the
instrumental-only mix on the HIStory album. I had no
way of knowing back then that it was "rare" and was
deleted from later pressings.
If memory serves me, the CD was a record club issue
(I'm leaning towards BMG but it may have very well been
Columbia House).
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It's not really rare; you just have to find an early
copy. One way of knowing the earlier pressing is the
Epic logo which was in script with a line underneath it
for the earlier pressing.
My issue was that they took the horns out of the verses
of "Bad" for the single version and replaced subsequent
album pressings with that version. That's why I needed
an early copy.
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