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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 30 January 2022 at 8:58am | IP Logged
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Andy -
I seem to remember that TM Century had a no false fade
version of "Suspicious Minds" on one of their GoldDiscs. It's
possible that your local station used that version.
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AdvprosD MusicFan
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AndrewChouffi wrote:
Possibly they DID play the 45 version, but the stations
used heavy volume compression/processing which kept the
volume level over-the-air consistent (or perhaps they
carted it up correcting the volume drop).
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I suppose that's a possible explanation for my ignorance to the Tamala 45. What I don't understand is why they would pick that one, and none of the others. I think I
can say with some confidence that I distinctly remember all the other false fades. It is peculiar to me as to why this one had to be fixed or edited.
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garye MusicFan
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Posted: 01 February 2022 at 9:53pm | IP Logged
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LunarLaugh wrote:
You can possibly create something
resembling a stereo 45
version by editing the intro and outro from
the instrumental version found on Universal's "20th
Century
Masters: Best of The Funk Brothers" CD onto the stereo
album cut. There still might be some lingering 'chatter'
track once the vocal kicks in. I'm also not sure if the
stereo separation of the two versions would make for a
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I tried this out last night and it came out pretty nice
on a first attempt!
If you have a copy of 20th Masters: The Funk Brothers
keep the 1st 8.9 seconds and then with the stereo LP
version of Whats Going On remove the 1st 16 seconds off
that and you'll have a nice stereo Copy recreation and it
fades at 3:41.
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ddipas MusicFan
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Posted: 11 June 2023 at 12:02pm | IP Logged
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I just picked up a Canadian CD, "The Very Best Of Marvin
Gaye" (1994). It has the mono 45 mix of "What's Going On."
However, the track ends after the first fade out followed
by six seconds of silence! Kind of a weird choice.
This CD also has the proper 45 version of "Sexual Healing,"
which is pretty hard to find.
Edited by ddipas on 11 June 2023 at 12:04pm
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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The version on Motown's superb 1995 Marvin Gaye 2-CD collection Anthology is labeled in the database as stereo but with "very poor stereo separation".
You can hear some odd stereo-like artifacts if you listen in headphones.
I just discovered that the left and right channels are out of synch by about two samples. If you re-synch the left and right channels, the stereo-like artifacts disappear, and it's dead-center mono, just like all the other copies of the 45 version that have ever been released. (I confirmed in a null test.)
We should note this in the database as (M), but with desynchronization between the left and right channels. Or something to that effect. We shouldn't give people hope that the 45 version of "What's Going On" exists in stereo, or even poorly separated stereo. It doesn't. It's only mono.
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The Hits Man MusicFan
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bwolfe wrote:
Pauses in songs have always intrigued me.
"Monday Monday", "The Little Girl I Once Knew", "Do You
Love Me" and "Judy In Disguise" all has pauses or stops.
Must have been an artistic thing.
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The mono 45 of "Itchycoo Park" also has a fake fadeout.
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The Hits Man MusicFan
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bwolfe wrote:
Pauses in songs have always intrigued me.
"Monday Monday", "The Little Girl I Once Knew", "Do You
Love Me" and "Judy In Disguise" all has pauses or stops.
Must have been an artistic thing.
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The mono 45 of "Itchycoo Park" also has a fake fadeout.
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Hykker MusicFan
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Yah Shure wrote:
The first AM station I worked at had an antenna current meter that would purposely engage only when one pushed an "audio
cut" button while taking meter readings. While this resulted in an accurate reading, it also caused a blatantly obvious decrease in
modulation while that button was held down. On many occasions, I took adavantage of the pauses in the "Monday, Monday"s and "Turn! Turn!
Turn!"s of the music world to unobtrusively comply with FCC regs. :)
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OK, a bit late to this party, but WRKO in Boston had a directional signal with different day and night patterns. Changing pattern
involved dropping the carrier for a couple seconds while a bunch of relays changed the antenna parameters. The studio & transmitter
engineers would often co-ordinate so a false end occurred right when it was time to do the pattern change.
The Hits Man wrote:
Now, I read that Marvin Gaye purposely faded "What's Going On" just to piss off the station DJs, like getting in the
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If true, the joke would have been on him. Easy enough for DJs to dump out of a song early, especially one with a long fade or weird
ending. I've done it countless times.
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