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EdisonLite MusicFan
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 8:50pm | IP Logged
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Pat's database mentions that the Reader's Digest CD with the single version is NOT at the actual speed of the single version. I compared this CD version with the album versions on CD and found them to be the same speed. So can someone tell me what percent - or how many "cents" - you have to speed up the CD version on Reader's Digest CD to get the true single speed? (Or can someone email me an mp3 of the actual 45 - at correct speed - so I can figure it out myself?))
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 9:30pm | IP Logged
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Gordon..also according to the database, the Reader's Digest CD is missing part of the introduction. I have a dub of the 45 I can send you for observation.
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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Posted: 03 November 2009 at 9:53pm | IP Logged
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Thanks for sending.
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davidclark MusicFan
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Posted: 04 November 2009 at 6:36am | IP Logged
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I would also like a dub of the US 45, so that I may a-b it with my CAD one.
thanks.
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Bwci Bo MusicFan
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Ok, it looks like I am a few years behind everyone else on this one, but I recently picked up a cheap copy of the aforementioned Reader's Digest 3CD set. I too would like to pitch up my copy to match the true speed of the 45. Did EdisonLite or davidclark ever determine what percentage the speed increase was? And if not, would someone be happy to shoot me out a reference copy of the 45 to match mine against, please? Many thanks.
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Bwci Bo MusicFan
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Posted: 12 September 2015 at 9:02pm | IP Logged
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I received a 45 dub - thanks to the sender!
For future reference, I had to pitch up the CD version 1.73% to match the 45. As the CD version also has a shorter intro and outro, a little extra surgery may be required for an exact match.
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MMathews MusicFan
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Posted: 23 February 2020 at 12:00am | IP Logged
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Hi all,
We'll need a database update for this one. At John G's
request I did some sync-checks and Gordon provided me
the version from this CD set:
(S) (3:04) Reader's Digest CDL3-57300 Her
Greatest Hits And Finest Performances (45 version but
slower and faded earlier than the 45; part of the
instrumental introduction is missing)
This CD is not the 45 version, but rather an "edit of
the LP version in an unsuccessful attempt to recreate
the 45 version" - that's why it runs too slow - it's
at the LP speed. The also messed up the edits, they
are in the wrong places. They even narrowed the stereo
to more resemble the 45 mix.
But no matter because even if they got the edits
right, the 45 is a dedicated mix. The reverb types are
different. Also on the LP the acoustic guitar comes
in clear at the first verse. But in the 45 mix it
doesn't show up til the 2nd verse. Also the 45 is
basically mono until the 2nd verse, then it is in
very-narrow stereo, even narrower than those CCR hits.
So bottom line, for the true single version you need a
45 dub for this one as no CD has the 45 mix.
MM
Edited by MMathews on 23 February 2020 at 12:00am
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davidclark MusicFan
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Posted: 23 February 2020 at 2:59am | IP Logged
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Also clearly evident in the 45 mix is a kinda faint bell sound starting at around
the 45-seconds-to-go mark that I don't hear in the LP mix/version.
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MPH711 MusicFan
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Posted: 23 February 2020 at 12:07pm | IP Logged
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I made my own stereo 45 version from the 45 using Moises. I’m not
sure it’s allowed to post a link to it here. You can PM me if anyone has
an interest. It’s an MP3 since that’s what I started with. It turned out
pretty good.
Mike
Edited by MPH711 on 23 February 2020 at 1:37pm
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Robert MusicFan
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Posted: 23 February 2020 at 2:01pm | IP Logged
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Good Catch, Mark, but here's a question for you: the promo 45 of this song is a stereo/mono w/printed time of 3:07 on both sides. Can you shed some light on this? It sounds like the very narrow stereo mix described here.
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MMathews MusicFan
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Posted: 23 February 2020 at 3:19pm | IP Logged
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Robert,
The stock 45 also runs (3:07) so I must assume the
stereo side of the promo is the same as the stock 45.
I also assume the mono side is a fold-down of the narrow
stereo side, but I don't have a promo 45 dub to compare.
MM
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