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crapfromthepast
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After a 1-year break from this thread, I actually have a real "Don't Look Back" question.
Compared with the version I have on three Time-Life CDs (AM Gold - 1978, Sounds Of The Seventies - AM Nuggets, Guitar Rock - 1978-1979), the version on Music By Mail's Rock This Way sounds much cleaner and runs about 1.9% faster. Rock This Way runs 5:57.
Was there a pitch difference between the LP and the 45? I sold off my Boston LPs years ago, and this is right before I started collecting 45s, so I don't have a vinyl copy of this song at all.
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BillCahill wrote:
FM stations were given a 12 inch promo which said "special FM version). 5:53 |
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As I recall, the 12" promo single had the 5:53 version on one side, and a longer version on the other that essentially segued into the next cut on the album ("The Journey"?) to make a roughly 7:00 tune. The station I worked P/T during the song's chart run wanted us to play this long version whenever possible since no one else in the market was playing this version. Otherwise we used the 5:53 one...I don't think we played the 4 minute edit at all...never saw a copy of it there.
Kind of odd for a small-ish market AM!
Edited by Hykker on 15 May 2009 at 6:19am
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I don't have an original LP to compare with but the 12" promo "Don't Look Back" has a label time of 5:53 but runs 6:01. (That's the side without "The Journey") The DJ 45 (both sides) have a label time of 4:05 but both run 4:06. The pitch of all three of these is about the same, I couldn't determine much of a difference, any slight difference might have simply been due to mastering from different machines. That doesn't answer the main question as to whether or not the stock 45 is pitched different than the original LP, someone else will have to check that, but the DJ copies, 12" and 45 rpm were very close to being the same pitch.
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TimNeely wrote:
sriv94 wrote:
You're not from Chicago by any chance, are you? WLS created edits of those songs (edits that I've actually tried to replicate from memory). The funny thing is they also created an edit for "The Bitch Is Back" (even though the song clocked in at under four minutes unedited).
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I'm originally from the Philadelphia area, and WFIL-AM in Philly also played edits of all those songs. Not sure about "The Bitch Is Back," but it played edits of all those others. I too could create them almost from memory if I wanted to.
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As a postscript to this, I finally realized why WLS created an edit for "The Bitch Is Back." Seemingly they might have a problem with the verse that contained the line "I get high in the evening sniffing pots of glue."
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crapfromthepast wrote:
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Ron, although the stock 45 runs a tad faster, I wouldn't call it a significant difference. Because the LP cut tracks into "The Journey", I timed them both up to the beginning of the last note, which occurs at 5:50.205 on the stock 45, and at 5:50.820 on the LP, a difference of .615 of a second.
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Yah Shure wrote:
crapfromthepast wrote:
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Ron, although the stock 45 runs a tad faster, I wouldn't call it a significant difference. Because the LP cut tracks into "The Journey", I timed them both up to the beginning of the last note, which occurs at 5:50.205 on the stock 45, and at 5:50.820 on the LP, a difference of .615 of a second. |
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That's consistent with the Rock This Way version.
Looks like the Time-Life versions all run 1.9% too slow.
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