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Posted: 20 May 2005 at 8:13am | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Pat:

In the 10th edition, you show all CD appearances for New Radicals' "You Get What You Give" as being the LP version. I'm pretty certain this song was never released on a commercial single format, so there shouldn't be a 45 version. I do have a radio edit running 4:40 on my Promo Only: Mainstream Radio DJ CD subscription series. Were you perhaps basing your LP version comment on a DJ copy?   
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I'm also pretty certain there was never a commercial single. There's the promo CD single, which is partially an edit but also contains a small portion not found on the "album version." This contains the radio version. I do think the book should notate that the version on the album is different from the radio / promo version, but if you don't call it "LP version", how would you label that version?
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Posted: 20 May 2005 at 7:46pm | IP Logged Quote Moderator

I can confirm that there was a dj cd single MCAP-4212 that was an edit of the LP version and ran 4:40. The reason I used the comment LP version was that Whitburn lists the running time as 4:08 even though he lists this song as an album track (which runs 4:59) so I figured he knew something that I didn't. I will remove the comment "LP version".

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Posted: 20 May 2005 at 9:04pm | IP Logged Quote Todd Ireland

Looks like Whitburn got that one wrong, Pat. Will there be some kind of commentary under the song heading in the 11th edition? Like: DJ copies contain a version running (4:40), or something to that effect?

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Yes I have already entered that that exact comment.

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Posted: 12 October 2007 at 9:01pm | IP Logged Quote eric_a

Today, I uncovered the edit (~4:08) verson of this song on a Promo Only Modern Rock issue.

A little research also finds the "Radio Edit" running 4:08 on the European version of another NR single:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother_We_Just_Can't_Get_Enough

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Posted: 12 October 2007 at 9:19pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Eric, I distinctly remember the promo CD single for that song having two different edits. From memory, the shorter (4:08) was cut 1, and the longer (4:40) was cut 2 on my old station's copy. Perhaps more than one promo CD exists, since Pat doesn't mention anything about his copy having a (4:08) version. I'll bet you money that Jim will be able to fill in the details on this.
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Posted: 12 October 2007 at 9:37pm | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

I have the promo CD single with the 4:08 version, but prior to this I had a promo CD single with only a 4:40 version (which I no longer have.)
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Posted: 12 October 2007 at 9:39pm | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Aha! So, there DOES appear to be two different pressings of the promo CD single. Thanks, EdisonLite, for clearing that up.
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Posted: 13 October 2007 at 8:54am | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Was the 4:08 version just an earlier fade of the 4:40 version?
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Posted: 13 October 2007 at 9:11am | IP Logged Quote EdisonLite

The 4:08 version is an edit.
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Posted: 13 October 2007 at 10:42am | IP Logged Quote eric_a

EdisonLite wrote:
The 4:08 version is an edit.


I haven't given this an A/B analysis, but on my first listen, I immediately noticed that the introduction was miniaturized, with at least two cuts. That would only account for part of the time difference; maybe a chorus repeat was cut also. I'll try to listen more carefully this weekend.
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Does the 4:08 edit do anything with the line near the end of the song..."We'll kick your ass in"? In other words, is it still there?
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The 4:08 version does have the "kick your asses" line.
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Posted: 15 October 2007 at 7:03pm | IP Logged Quote eric_a

aaronk wrote:
The 4:08 version does have the "kick your asses" line.


As far as I can tell, the short version is identical, except that it removes two clips:

-2 bars in the intro (0:12.6 to 0:16.8)

-Cut from 3:39.3 to 4:04.6. This is the part where he is howling on long notes.

The beginning and (short) fade are the same in both versions.
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Posted: 15 October 2007 at 7:21pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

Just an observation, but kinda surprising the lyric about "kick your asses in" didn't get chopped in a radio edit...
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Posted: 15 October 2007 at 7:48pm | IP Logged Quote jimct

At least one local AC station that I heard it played on simply faded the song before that entire "Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson" ending verse began, but it was not officially released in that way.
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aaronk wrote:
Eric, I distinctly remember the promo CD single for that song having two different edits. From memory, the shorter (4:08) was cut 1, and the longer (4:40) was cut 2 on my old station's copy. Perhaps more than one promo CD exists, since Pat doesn't mention anything about his copy having a (4:08) version. I'll bet you money that Jim will be able to fill in the details on this.
Aaron, I have finally un-buried my late 90's music, are here's what I have on promo CD single for this one:

New Radicals-"You Get What You Give" (MCA5P-4276)
1-Non-described Version (listed & actual 4:08)
2-Non-described Version (listed 4:42; actual 4:41)
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eriejwg wrote:
Just an observation, but kinda surprising the lyric about "kick your asses in" didn't get chopped in a radio edit...
   Actually, a version I once heard did just that.

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Back when this song was out a station in Tampa, FL (on what used to be WAKS 100.7 Kiss-FM which was a very family-friendly Hot AC station) aired an edit of that line. They took out "ass" and replaced it with "Manson" from earlier in the song. So it went like this, "We'll kick your Manson in." I still have this edit on tape from an aircheck I recorded.
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