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Posted: 06 November 2022 at 8:14am | IP Logged
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The file mjb50 has from my collection is close to 20 years old, so I can't say for sure what the source is. I think, however, I edited the existing CD version to match and then added the missing fade out from TM Century's copy. (Back then, I didn't have nearly as good of a setup, nor the skills, to do my own vinyl transfers and cleanups.) I should probably work on a new file at some point.
Earlier in the thread, I mentioned I had found a copy of the 45 with a 3:46 printed time, and I made a dub to my hard drive. That dub runs exactly 4:17.8 and ends about one second sooner than the YouTube 45 dub.
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I dug up two more stock copies from my collection. Both are pressed on vinyl and both have RE in the matrix (both label and deadwax). I also found a test pressing on styrene, which just has the artist and title handwritten on a white label. This also has RE in the deadwax. Finally, I have a promo pressed on vinyl, and again, there's RE in both the deadwax and on the label.
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This is an extremely interesting and complicated thread. Unfortunately, I can't help with any sources worth mentioning.
I looked at a few of my euro collections from the period and found hardly a mention of this particular song. I'm guessing that it wasn't much of a "Hit" overseas at the time?
I do remember the song though as being a fav on the Pop and A/C stations here.
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Posted: 06 November 2022 at 9:32pm | IP Logged
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aaronk wrote:
I edited the existing CD version to match and then added the missing fade out from TM Century's copy. |
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Ah, OK. That explains what I was seeing in the spectrogram. There is indeed a different source for the tail end. Still, you did a great job making it seamless.
Nowadays when I do my own edits, I am sure to tag & name it such that it's clear that it's a fan reconstruction. I see Ron does this on some of his edits, even summarizing the sources and specific edits. 20 years ago, I probably wouldn't have bothered, but I've learned since then that I'm far more prone to making mistakes than I like to think. I can be so confident that I've nailed it (whatever "it" is), and then several years later I take another listen, and can't believe what I missed. Or I just wonder where the heck the edit came from. Oh well... at least it's a labor of love.
Edited by mjb50 on 06 November 2022 at 9:35pm
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The YouTuber that posted the version running 3:32, says it's a radio edit. I would tend to agree that this is just an early fade of the single version.
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Folks! So I have an update for you regarding this version that I found on YouTube about a week ago. I'll save everyone the trouble to find my original post and give you the link again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU-9lHrSe6k
In the comments, the YouTuber told me where he got this version from. By the way, my YouTube channel (1 of 3) is Kiss Fan Mac (don't ask, lol :P).
It's a 3 CD compilation called: 80's Top Killers Vol. 2 (kind of a weird title).It was released in March of 2010 by Sony.The UPC is:1229677296, from what I saw from another website. Unfortunately, discogs has no listing for it but anyone can double check just to make sure. I googled the title and found a link to the 3 CD set, but there are no running times on it. This is the link to it:
https://dlalejdis.pl/artykuly/80_s_top_killers_vol2
I think this was made in Poland. I've got some stuff to do tonight so I only went through a few results and seeing things about serial killers. If anyone has time to search this a little more, please do. Oh and sorry, I dont know how to highlight links on here. I'm foreign when it comes to forum stuff.
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