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This is great news and am anxious to see track lists too.
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Brian W.
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Whee hoo! Let's hope they include some bonus tracks with
corrections from the previous volumes.
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Universal Music Select have announced it on their Twitter page.
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Brian, much as I'd love it, I'm not holding out much hope for a "corrections
bonus tracks" series addendum. (Maybe drop Harry Weinger a "reminder e-
mail" about it, though? Nothing to lose.) I'm ecstatic at this news! It's just
been so long a delay, I'd given up all hope on ever seeing those two 1972
volumes. (And Pat, PS, I will again be providing you with my "guest review"
version details, for all the db-appearing tracks appearing on these, as I have
done for all the other volumes in this series.)
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This really is awesome!
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The track list is finally up on the Hip-O Select website.
Release date is May 31st for the five disc set (12A).
Edited by Santi Paradoa on 10 May 2013 at 10:53am
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Glad to see this set finally released. Good news.
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Just over an hour ago (Thurs 11PM ET), I received an e-mail from Hip-O
Select, informing me that my 5-CD Complete Motown Singles 1972A
pre-order was rush shipped out (with tracking) on Wednesday, 5/29.
There was no last minute delay; it was released on schedule. Maybe
there's a shot I'll even get it Saturday! I'd like to personally thank ace
Motown compiler (and new Brian W. buddy! :) ) Harry Weinger, for never
giving up on this long-delayed project, for successfully playing "We Can
Work It Out" with Stevie Wonder on it, to make this final yearly
installment 2-pack available to us 45 version fanatics. These volumes
are among the most very prized possessions in my large CD collection.
Only 1972B left to go!
I know it's 2013. New catalog CD releases are way down. But with good
folks like Mr. Weinger and Eric's Bill Buster still actively involved, I know
us collectors will never be forgotten! They've proven it to us, time and
time again. (Pat, your "guest review" e-mail on this set will arrive from
me any day now....)
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Happily, I did receive the 5-CD set in the mail today (Sat.), and I have
already done/sent out to Pat an e-mail, with all my "guest review" details
to him. This time, there were just 8 songs currently in Pat's db, and just
one with both a mono and stereo promo version included (Temptations-
"Take A Look Around".) The 7 other db entries on this set all appear only
in stereo.
As I said to Pat in my e-mail, regarding the sparse 1972 Motown hit total,
Berry Gordy was obviously pre-occupued at this time, with both the June
'72 move of Motown's label operations from Detroit to L.A., and him
working on his own lifelong dream, doing a Billie Holiday-based film,
"Lady Sings The Blues", starring his own Diana Ross, than he was directly
involved in creating hit records.
Edited by jimct on 01 June 2013 at 12:29pm
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Here's the heads up: Looks like the final volume (12B) on
five discs covering the second half of 1972 will be
released on Dec. 10th per Amazon (where one can pre-order).
No track listing yet on that site and no info on the Hip-O
Select website as of yet.
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I've seen the track listing in this UK page a few days ago.
http://www.prescriptionmusicpruk.com/press-releases/2013/10/ 18/the-complete-motown-singles-volume-12b-1972.html
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The full track listing/pre-order info for the final CMS volume, Vol. 12B:
1972 has now been updated to www.hip-oselect.com, including a detailed
track listing. As of today, the release date is still shown as Dec. 10th.
Whereas Amazon's price for it is currently $97.07, the Hip-O Select web
site's price is just $75.98. So I have just pre-ordered from the latter, with
priority shipping. The moment I get it, I will analyze it, and provide for Pat
one final "guest review" for this series. Nine more db songs will be
included on Vol. 12B, including a newly-pressed 45/Box Set cover insert
of "Papa Was A Rollin' Stone".
-Michael Jackson--Ben
-Gladys Knight & The Pips--Daddy Could Swear, I Declare (this was
actually a Top 40 hit in the late spring of 1973; but it's a nice bonus...)
-Temptations--Papa Was A Rollin' Stone
-Jackson 5--Corner Of The Sky
(and these five, which all reached their chart peak positions in early 1973)
-Stevie Wonder--Superstition
-Jermaine Jackson--Daddy's Home
-Marvin Gaye--Trouble Man
-Diana Ross--Good Morning Heartache
-Gladys Knight & The Pips--Neither One Of Us (as the last track on the
last CD.) Although my info has both the included singles by this group
actually issued as 45s in 1973 (between 1/1 and 1/21/73 for "Neither...",
debuting in BB on 1/27/73), to me, it's a nice touch to end the CMS series
on a "high note", with a #2 smash hit, as well as ensuring that all of the
group's Top 40 hits on Soul/Motown were all included in this series (with
their first 45 for Buddah issued in June of '73.) I also think it's great that
when Harry Weinger & Co. realized they had a little bit of extra CD
capacity left over to play with, they decided to put it to good use, and
were able to include Gladys' last two Motown Top 40 hits. A class move!
Edited by jimct on 14 November 2013 at 10:26pm
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I just got an e-mail from Motown Select, saying that the final CMS
installment (12B) was Priority shipped to me on Wed (12/4/13). Hopefully,
it will arrive by Saturday. I will then provide my final "guest review" to Pat.
I also want to thank Pat personally, for both allowing me and trusting me
to report CMS findings to him that are 100% accurate. I know that this
arrangement is not something that Pat has agreed to very often, over the
years. As a result of his open mind, a good number of unique stock and
promo 45 versions, many of which made their only CD appearance on
these volumes, do appear in the db.
I'm also relieved that this series could finally be issued to its initially
planned end year (1972 - thanks, Stevie Wonder!) Usually, when a project
"stalls/bogs down" for 3+ years, there's little or no hope left for a series
resumption. And I'm sure that without Motown's Harry Weinger, these two
1972 sets would never have been released. We collectors need more guys
like Harry Weinger, fighting the fight for us from the corporate side of
things!
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I was about to finally purchase the two 1972 volumes of this series with some Amazon gift cards I received for my birthday. Then I noticed: There are MORE incorrect stereo versions substituted for mono versions!
In fact, it looks like 1972B might be all stereo. For example, "Ben" is stereo; "Little Bitty Pretty One" on 12A is stere; the 45s for both were mono.
Really disappointing.
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Brian, inside the CMS 1972 liner notes (not sure if it was 1972A or
1972B's), Harry Weinger explained that, by 1972, more and more Motown
45s were being originally recorded/prepared for stereo. I think he made
mention that, although some 1972 stock copies were still being released
in mono, a majority of 1972 promo 45s were issued in mono/stereo. (Late
1972's #1 hit "Papa Was A Rollin' Stone" was an exception, though. All
promo/stock 45s for it were mono, and included an instrumental B-side;
the song does appear on the 1972B CMS volume in mono.) Weinger stated
that *all* 1972 mono 45 versions were simply fold-downs of the stereo
45 versions. So, all other things being equal, he opted to include the
stereo single masters for these 1972 45 tracks. (And you know that I, like
you, am normally partial to mono 45 versions.)
Personally, I thought his rationale here made good sense, trusting that his
facts were in order. Weinger clearly had to decide here, one way or the
other, or else both 1972 packages would've become 10 CD sets!
Brian, if you've happened upon any evidence where Weinger mis-spoke,
and located any 1972 mono single mixes that *weren't* simply fold downs
of the stereo single mixes, then please provide specific examples. If you'd
like me to shoot you out "Ben", "Little Bitty Pretty One", or any other
specific 1972 tracks, to compare/contrast against your 45s, just let me
know.
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jimct wrote:
Weinger stated
that *all* 1972 mono 45 versions were simply fold-downs of the stereo 45 versions. So, all other things being equal, he opted to include the stereo single masters for these 1972 45 tracks. (And you know that I, like
you, am normally partial to mono 45 versions.) Personally, I thought his rationale here made good sense, trusting that his facts were in order. Brian, if you've happened upon any evidence where Weinger mis-spoke, and located any 1972 mono single mixes that *weren't* simply fold downs of the stereo single mixes, then please provide specific examples. |
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Mm... I had suspected that could be the reason. Because just last night I verified that "Got to Be There" is definitely, 100% a fold-down, and it sounded to me like "Ben" probably was, too, although it was hard to tell from the 45 someone posted on YouTube.
Yes, I agree that the decision makes sense. Thanks, Jim.
Edited by Brian W. on 29 June 2014 at 3:58pm
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I compared "Trouble Man" by Marvin Gaye using the mono and stereo sides of the DJ copy, and it certainly sounds like a fold down to me.
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