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thecdguy MusicFan
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That's very disappointing. It's even more confusing
since it's been 7 years now since she passed, so it's
not like her passing would be exploited by having the
Deluxe Edition released.
If someone worked on "Didn't We Almost Have It All" to
lessen the distortion, is there any chance to at least
have that version made available as a digital download
(hopefully lossless)? I guess that would have to have
Clive's approval too, but it's not like it would set
them back financially to make it available in that
format.
As for "All At Once", it had quite a bit of Airplay in
my area on the AC Stations and I think I even heard it a
few times on one of our Top 40 stations. Since it was
the B-Side of "Saving All My Love For You", I really am
surprised Billboard didn't list both songs on the chart
as a Double A-Side.
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Michaeldila MusicFan
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It should have been a double-A side. I didn’t listen to AC radio back
then yet i heard “all at once” constantly it seems...so i’m assuming it got
alot of top 40 exposure here in new york...
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Bellenger1981 MusicFan
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Does anyone know if radio stations jumped on "All at
Once" as a potential follow to the No. 1 success of
"Greatest Love of All" (which was the final single from
the album)? Or, was it just played throughout 1985/1986
despite not being promoted as an A-side?
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PopArchivist MusicFan
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I remember it being played in NY as well, but you would think if it got any legitimate promotion here in the states it would have either a) charted as an AA hit or b) included as an airplay hit in the Top Pop Singles and it is not. I've taken the opinion that since radio stations clearly played it, it deserves its place in history.
If I recall it was released overseas as a single, so there is that. So there is merit to the whole AA thing.
https://www.discogs.com/Whitney-Houston-All-At-Once/master/2 25428
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thecdguy MusicFan
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Bellenger1981 wrote:
Does anyone know if radio
stations jumped on "All at
Once" as a potential follow to the No. 1 success of
"Greatest Love of All" (which was the final single
from
the album)? Or, was it just played throughout
1985/1986
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I seem to recall it having airplay late in 1985, but I
could be wrong. If it was 1986, I could see why Arista
might have been reluctant to release it, as a year
after "Greatest Love Of All" went to #1, the first
single from her second album was already on the charts
and on its way to #1. Maybe they thought having "All
At Once" as an A-Side would have been overkill.
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cmmmbase MusicFan
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All At Once did show up in Radio & Records' Significant
Action section for CHR stations (which means a few
stations reported playing it) beginning 7/4/86 and
lasting 4 weeks. At its peak, 26 stations reported
playing it.
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I also heard All at Once sprinkled intermittedly in various Top 40 markets
during 1986, but never in Power Rotation. It always felt like a local choice, not
a Label directive, and I guess AC just couldn't help themselves, thus the #23
AC peak in Radio & Records. I believe Arista wanted to keep Whitney's Hot
100 #1 streak alive and felt that the song was incapable of quite doing that in
the summer of 1986.
A similar scenario occurred 5 years later when Columbia issued a cease &
desist to various stations who were playing Mariah Carey's "Prisoner" as a
logical follow-up to her first 4 #1 songs. I think Tommy wanted to keep her
streak alive in prep for her Sophomore album later that year.
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Bellenger1981 MusicFan
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Such a wealth of information here. Thank you for the
responses. Interesting how labels did not want to
interrupt streaks of No. 1 hits back then. I had no idea
that radio was trying to pick up on "Prisoner" by Mariah
Carey back then either.
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Bellenger1981 wrote:
Such a wealth of information here. Thank you for the responses. |
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It's nice to see new members here! I'm sure some have "lurked" for years but weren't able to register due to it being suspended. Hopefully the workaround I've posted at the top of the board encourages other long-time lurkers to reach out to me about joining.
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Bellenger1981 MusicFan
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aaronk wrote:
Bellenger1981 wrote:
Such a wealth of
information here. Thank you for the responses. |
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It's nice to see new members here! I'm sure some have
"lurked" for years but weren't able to register due to
it being suspended. Hopefully the workaround I've
posted at the top of the board encourages other long-
time lurkers to reach out to me about joining. |
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Indeed. That's what happened in my case. I had been
lurking for years. I ended up e-mailing Pat because I
wanted to participate in the forum. It had been much too
long. So much cool and helpful information here in
addition to awesome people!
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JM27 MusicFan
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Such a shame that the expanded edition of Whitney hasn't
been released. The success of the recent Kygo remix of
"Higher Love" (currently No.2 in the UK) does give me
some hope for a proper schedule of posthumous releases,
especially with Primary Wave Music Publishing acquiring a
50% stake in the Houston Estate' assets who'll want to
maximise their investment. Pat Houston did recently state
that an album of unreleased tracks was in the works -
perhaps these unissued Whitney era songs will be featured
on that?
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PopArchivist MusicFan
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aaronk wrote:
It's nice to see new members here! I'm sure some have "lurked" for years but weren't able to register due to it being suspended. Hopefully the workaround I've posted at the top of the board encourages other long-time lurkers to reach out to me about joining. |
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Aaron,
Funny you should say that I was one of those lurkers who read the board religiously for years before. I posted on the Steve Hoffman boards and got to know thehitsman and thecdguy long before I posted here. If not for Pat allowing registration I would have still been lurking. I took the plunge to have access to the database to do the top 40 project right.
For the longest time I thought the board didnt have new members at all or the only way to be a board member was to buy a subscription. I would have been on here about 6 years ago. I was friendly with edtop40 for awhile before I even joined. So yes thanks Aaron for making it easier for people to share their info and for all of us to benefit.
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thecdguy MusicFan
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Is it safe to assume that the situation remains the same with "Didn't We Almost Have It All", still no release of the version that was worked on
by an engineer to try to remove/lessen the distortion throughout the song? Obviously the 25th anniversary edition of the "Whitney" album never ended up
being released and now we're up to its 35th anniversary. I guess that's not going to happen anytime soon, either.
Edited by thecdguy on 06 August 2022 at 7:06am
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I was at the concert when she recorded the video for Didn’t We Almost
Have It All. Absolutely mind blowing how good she sounded. It was cold too.
I remember there was a pause in the concert I think right before this song
something about going live on MTV and had to wait til ready to go live.
Anyway a great performance. Too bad about the distortion on the master
vocals but no distortion here: Didn’t
We Almost Have It All
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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thecdguy wrote:
Is it safe to assume that the situation remains the
same with "Didn't We Almost Have It All", still no release of the version that
was worked on
by an engineer to try to remove/lessen the distortion throughout the song?
Obviously the 25th anniversary edition of the "Whitney" album never ended
up
being released and now we're up to its 35th anniversary. I guess that's not
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Wow, I guess I haven't been on this site since early July. (July 2 to be
precise! (I used to check it more than once a day for many years. But I
guess I've gotten busy). Still love the site. Anyway...
Yes you're correct, that version is likely not to come out, as the deluxe CD is
probably never going to come out. It was to have 3 unreleased bonus cuts
(And Whitney has very few unreleased songs). Oddly, the reason for this is
that after Whitney's death, Arista president Clive Davis didn't want to
release much of her music on CD. Such an odd approach and opposite to
Sony's Michael Jackson's approach. Maybe he feels he's preserving her
legacy by not releasing any 4CD boxed sets (yep, she's never had one!) or
anymore deluxe editions of CDs. I don't get that thinking. And now that
Legacy has moved to digital-only and vinyl, it seems like this will never
come out on CD. Of course, a 3rd party like Real Gone I'm sure would jump
on this but I don't think Clive is making it available to 3rd parties either.
Edited by EdisonLite on 14 November 2022 at 2:13am
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