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Posted: 17 August 2021 at 4:37am | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

By the way, getting back to "As Long As You Love Me", it sounds to me like there might be a mix difference on the intro. The "Radio Mix" with
vocals at :07 sounds like it has some extra instrumentation on the intro compared to the original version's intro.

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Posted: 17 August 2021 at 5:54am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

The original LP version of "As Long As You Love Me" is a different mix all the way through, and yes, the intro of the Radio Mix has an added acoustic guitar that is not on the LP version. There is additional instrumentation pretty much start to finish on the Radio Mix.

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Posted: 22 August 2021 at 6:22am | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

For anyone who worked in radio when "Quit Playing Games" was on the charts, which version did your station play? I only seem to remember Brian's version
being played. I'm a little confused as to which is considered the "Hit Version".

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Posted: 22 August 2021 at 7:38am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

I can say with 100% certainly we only played the version with Nick on the second verse. Hearing the Brian version the other day sounded "wrong" to my ears.

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Posted: 22 August 2021 at 8:13am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

thecdguy wrote:
Now the question is why there were two different pressings with the same tracks and basically the same number.

This was most likely a cost-saving measure by Jive. The promo CD without the "A" at the end comes in an elaborate digipak with six postcards containing the pictures of each band member. The disc itself is a fancy "minimax" CD, but I'm not sure if those were any more expensive to make than a normal CD. The "A" disc has only front and back inserts in a jewel case and no "minimax" CD.

When this song was a hit, I was working for a small market top 40 station. While we did receive quite a few promo CD singles from the labels, there were times when we weren't serviced a song at all and used TM Century HitDiscs or similar V/A promo comps. While I didn't know it at the time, I can now say for sure that our station almost always received the "generic" promo CD singles in cases when there were two different pressings containing the exact same tracks. Atlantic, Warner Bros., and Reprise, are labels that come to mind during this time period that often made two pressings of several songs. One had full artwork, while the other was generic looking for both the back insert and disc label. Most of the time, these had different catalog numbers, but occasionally a letter would simply be appended to the end of one of the catalog numbers.

For example, have a look at these promo CDs for "You Oughta Know":

PRO-CD-7565
https://www.discogs.com/Alanis-Morissette-You-Oughta-Know/re lease/4445313
This disc was issued with front and back inserts, the front being in full color.

PRO-CD-7732-R
https://www.discogs.com/Alanis-Morissette-You-Oughta-Know/re lease/4620390
This disc has the exact same track list but instead has only a generic back insert printed in black-and-white. This is an example of what we would be sent to our small market top 40 station far more often whenever two different pressings were made for a particular song.

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Posted: 22 August 2021 at 8:31am | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

Do you remember what the source for the song was, Aaron? Wikipedia says the Nick version was recorded in 1996 and added to the second presssing of
their US debut album in 1998. It looks like the promo CD Singles all have Brian's version, so I'm wondering how US radio stations got Nick's version
to be played in 1997 if it wasn't released in the US until 1998. (Assuming that Wikipedia is correct, of course). Is it possible Nick's version could
have been on a TM Century CD in '97 before it was on the re-release of the album the following year?

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Posted: 22 August 2021 at 8:53am | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

I just now noticed another US single for "Quit Playing Games" on Discogs with a number of 42454-2. This is listed as a "Sampler" and has a bar code on
the back. There is also an asterik next to the song's title which indicates it was recorded in Sweden AND at Battery Studios in London, which Wikipedia
pointed out as being where Nick recorded his second verse vocals. So maybe this particular disc contains Nick's version and may be where some stations
were playing it from?

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Posted: 22 August 2021 at 9:05am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

thecdguy wrote:
It looks like the promo CD Singles all have Brian's version

You must've misread my earlier post. Both promo CD singles have Nick singing the second verse. There is no promo CD single that has Brian on the second verse. Only the commercial CD single has that version.

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Posted: 22 August 2021 at 9:09am | IP Logged Quote aaronk

Also, to clear up any confusion for anyone joining mid-thread, we've been discussing the second verse of "Quit Playing Games" (not "As Long As You Love Me").

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Posted: 22 August 2021 at 9:12am | IP Logged Quote thecdguy

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You must've misread my earlier post. Both promo CD singles have Nick singing the second verse.


Oops, my bad! Feeling very embarrased right now....

But thanks for clearing up my confusion.

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Posted: 28 October 2021 at 11:18pm | IP Logged Quote JFive

aaronk wrote:
I can say with 100% certainly we only
played the version with Nick on the second verse. Hearing
the Brian version the other day sounded "wrong" to my ears.


I used listen to A LOT of radio back then. I heard the song
played on several stations in different markets and Nick
version is the only version I heard. I already had the
album on cassette and would always notice the second verse
was different on the radio.
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Posted: 28 October 2021 at 11:19pm | IP Logged Quote JFive

thecdguy wrote:
I just now noticed another US single
for "Quit Playing Games" on Discogs with a number of
42454-2. This is listed as a "Sampler" and has a bar code
on
the back. There is also an asterik next to the song's
title which indicates it was recorded in Sweden AND at
Battery Studios in London, which Wikipedia
pointed out as being where Nick recorded his second verse
vocals. So maybe this particular disc contains Nick's
version and may be where some stations
were playing it from?


I had this single/sampler. Bought it from Wal-Mart! It
has the video version with Nick on the second verse.
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