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I'm a little confused, and I'd like to sort the releases out in my head before I go much farther.
Please correct any of the following statements if I'm mistaken:- The first 45 release on Oasis 401 was a mono/stereo promo, with a printed time of 3:22 on both sides, and an actual run time of 3:21.
- This 3:22 version of the 45 was released only as a promo, not commercially.
- The 3:21 version on the 2-CD Anthology (and a few others) matches the printed 3:22 version on the first promo 45 release.
- This printed 3:22 version was not a hit, prompting Oasis to try again.
- Oasis released a second 45, with the same catalog number of Oasis 401, with an "RE-1" in the matrix number.
- Side AA of this RE-1 45 has a printed time of 4:57, and an actual time of 4:53.
- The 4:53 version on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 4 1976 (and a few others) matches the side AA 4:57 version on the RE-1 45.
- Side BB of the RE-1 45 has a printed time of 3:27, and an actual time of 3:24.
- The 3:23 version on Silver Eagle's Dancin' The Night Away matches the side BB 3:27 version on the RE-1 45.
- The RE-1 45s were released as promos (mono on both sides) and commercially (stereo on both sides).
Is all of the above correct?
Edited by crapfromthepast on 01 September 2016 at 12:00pm
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The only thing I can think of to add to this is
somewhat extraneous.
The original 45 release wasn't promo only. The stock
copy had a b-side "Need-A-Man Blues"
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The LP version runs 16:47. Probably interesting in a club setting, but way too long for normal listening.
The 45 was released twice, both on Oasis 401.
First (non-hit) release
The first (non-hit) release featured a relatively stripped-down (no pun intended) mix, with a printed time of 3:22 and an actual time of 3:21. This version is actually the first 3:21 of the album version, faded early. The commercial 45 featured the song "Need-A-Man Blues" on the B-side. (Thanks, Chuck!) The promo 45 featured stereo/mono versions of the 3:22 version.
This non-hit first 45 version is on Casablanca's 2-CD Donna Summer Anthology (1993), with a differently-EQ'd digital clone on Mercury's Donna Summer Greatest Hits (1998). There's a different analog transfer on UTV's 2-CD Donna Summer Journey The Very Best Of (2003). All three of these sound fine, with decent source tapes, nice dynamic range, a good EQ, and no evidence of noise reduction. All three start with a breath.
I believe that this first (non-hit) 45 version is also on Casablanca's Endless Summer, Razor & Tie's The Complete Donna Summer, Mercury's Best Of 20th Century Masters The Millennium Collection, and Mercury's Icon, but I don't have any of those and can't comment on the sound.
The first release of the 45 tanked, so Oasis tried again.
Second (hit) release
The original mix on the first 45 sounds like a demo compared to the second 45. This sounds much more like a hit, with a much busier mix, a little reverb, and that hard-to-describe mid-'70s disco sheen, much like "If I Can't Have You". And what a hit it was, peaking at US#2 in February 1976.
The second (hit) release featured "RE-1" prominently written in the matrix number, printed on the label right below the catalog number of Oasis 401. The first (non-hit) release featured no such "RE-1".
Side AA of the second (hit) 45 has a printed time of 4:57, and an actual time of 4:53. I don't think the side AA version can be cobbled together from bits of the LP version, but I haven't checked.
The side AA 4:57 (hit) version is on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 4 1976 (1989), with the same analog transfer being used for Warner Special Products' 2-CD Disco Collection (1993). Both sound fine, with decent source tapes, nice dynamic range, a good EQ, and no evidence of noise reduction. Both start with a breath.
I believe that the side AA 4:57 (hit) version is also on Hip-O/Mercury's Gold (minus the opening breath), and a few other Time-Life collections.
Side BB of the second (hit) 45 has a printed time of 3:27, and an actual time of 3:24. Side BB has basically the same song structure as the first (non-hit) release of the song, but with a much more authoritative mix. It's actually the last 3:48-or-so of the LP version, with the opening breath tacked on and faded early. The non-hit original mix sounds downright anemic compared to this one.
The side BB 3:27 version is on Silver Eagle/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Dancin' The Night Away (1988), but it sounds terrible here, with seemingly high-generation source tapes and no high end at all. It, too, starts with a breath. Any needledrop should sound better than what's on Dancin'.
The second (hit) RE-1 45s were released as promos (mono on both sides) and commercially (stereo on both sides).
Edited by crapfromthepast on 02 September 2016 at 6:49am
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Thanks for the detailed rundown of this 45. Maybe one
day Universal will actually release the BB version in
digital form, but i'm not holding my breath.
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