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sriv94 MusicFan
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Posted: 29 January 2014 at 9:48am | IP Logged
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Sorry to bump this, but I do want to revisit this. Can the prologue from the T-L Singers & Songwriters 1970-71 CD be used to create the long 45 version, or is that also part of the alternate mix?
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collectahit MusicFan
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Posted: 29 May 2017 at 3:42pm | IP Logged
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The alternate version of "Mr. Bojangles" that appears
on some B-sides of the 45 was also released on the
2006 Fuel CD "An Introduction to the Nitty Gritty Dirt
Band."
I had never heard this version, nor had heard of it,
until I recently purchased this budget CD. I had
wrongly assumed that this B-side version was the hit
take with the Uncle Charlie monologue edited out.
Thanks to you guys for explaining why the first part
of the song sounds like an alternate take, but the
rest of the song sounds like the hit version (at least
it does to me).
Edited by collectahit on 29 May 2017 at 3:43pm
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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Posted: 30 May 2017 at 3:01pm | IP Logged
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BTW, on my copy of the Twenty Years Of Dirt CD this song runs longer than the (5:02) listed in the database. My copy is Warner Brothers 25382 where it runs (5:09).
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KentT MusicFan
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Hykker wrote:
Todd Ireland wrote:
Also, I know I
asked this question previously in this thread, but for any
of our esteemed DJ veterans here on the board who was
spinning "Mr Bojangles" on the airwaves back in 1971...
Did your station play the full version with the "Uncle
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To answer your year-old question, in 1971 I was a
weekender at a small-market station in northern New
England. I don't recall the PD indicating which was the
"preferred" version, but most of the djs seemed to stick
with the short version. Other (more structured) stations
in larger markets in the area played the short version
exclusively.
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I was encouraged to play the short side without prologue.
However, at WATO 1290 in Oak Ridge, TN I was allowed to
play the long side with prologue when I needed to change
the Automation tapes on the WUUU 94.3 FM sister on the
other end of the building, or do other work on the FM
side, also this was done due to me being a physically
challenged operator/engineering assistant. I got to
sometimes play album cuts due to the above reasons if I
was on air.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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9 years after my original post, I have only one tiny detail to add:
The versions running 3:24, plus or minus a second, are the 1986 Twenty Years Of Dirt remix, with the prologue edited out, and sped up by 1.4%.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 13 January 2019 at 4:22pm | IP Logged
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To add to the discussion from years back, I've never heard
anything but the 3:34 version. Nobody plays this song on
the radio anymore but when I heard it it was the 3:34
version.
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davidclark MusicFan
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Great analysis (after the initial confusion) regarding the sped-up
remix of this track. I agree, not an "alternate take".
Anyone have the 1976 UA LP "Dirt, Silver & Gold". According to
discogs (https://www.discogs.com/Nitty-Gritty-Dirt-Band-Dirt-
Silver-Gold/release/2368887), it contains the two songs running a
total of 5:03, which is much shorter than the original issue. Might
that be the remix, or just faster, or a misprint?
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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Posted: 22 January 2019 at 5:48pm | IP Logged
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eriejwg wrote:
Nobody plays this song on
the radio anymore but when I heard it it was the 3:34
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Hard to imagine it's not played on radio stations that focus on '70s music ... or Sirius XM's 70s channel. I haven't really noticed one way or the other, but I can't believe it's been too many years that I haven't heard this on some oldies radio station.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 22 January 2019 at 10:55pm | IP Logged
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Sirius played the song on the Bridge on January 21st. The
last time they played it on 70s on 7 was in mid December
of 2018.
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sriv94 MusicFan
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Posted: 23 January 2019 at 10:09am | IP Logged
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eriejwg wrote:
The last time they played it on 70s on 7 was in mid December of 2018. |
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How do you find that out?
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 23 January 2019 at 2:24pm | IP Logged
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sriv94 wrote:
How do you find that out? |
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Sign up for a free account at xmfan.com. It's mainly a
listener based chat forum. Once Ryan approves your
account, login and look for the AudioLibrary search on
the left side of the screen. Search by title or artist.
I select to search by 'Time' once you get to the second
screen to search again. It should list the most recent
'time' and date a song was played and on what channel.
Another helpful site is xmplaylist.com.
I used to search on dogstarradio.com but their search
yields multiples of a song or artist on the same channel
and often songs that aren't even being played.
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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I remember using that search on xmfan.com years ago. It was quite helpful.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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xmplaylist.com was an awesome recent discovery though they
don't have a search function. It seems something's wrong
on that site as they haven't tracked what songs have aired
on the channels for over a week now.
As mentioned, I used to search on dogstarradio.com but
their search yields multiples of a song or artist on the
same channel and often songs that aren't even being
played.
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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The original mix of "Mr. Bojangles", on "Super Hits of the '70s" vol. 4" has a bit of distortion on some loud spots. (It's not on the alternate mix at all). I asked this question years ago, but does anyone know of a real clean version of "Mr. Bojangles" (original mix - whether with Uncle Charlie or without - that has no distortion? I kind of doubt that the original master has this distortion but you never know.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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I have it on their Best Of as well. Sounds nice there.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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I believe that the distortion is there on the two-track mixdown tape.
Listen around 2:34 and there's a little distortion in the mix. It's there on Have A Nice Day Vol. 4, and also on Best Of.
I doubt that there's any version of the original mix that lacks the distortion.
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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That's too bad. It's not on the multi-track because the alt mix doesn't have it. But the alt mix isn't nearly as good as the hit version. Too bad the 2-track stereo master was mixed so hot, and thus, with distortion.
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