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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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Posted: 11 July 2011 at 6:28pm | IP Logged
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I have two Let Em In DJ issues, one with stereo on both sides and the other mono both sides, both stereo and mono version have the same long and short version timing on the label. The mono is probably just a fold down of the stereo.
I compared the mono DJ edit to the mono full length side. They track together up until 2:24. That's about where the edit is, either on "Sister Susie" or the beat right before it. That means to create the DJ edit you edit out 2:24 to 3:34 and then fade the to the 3:44 end, as the short version never comes back for the cold ending.
If I get time I'll compare the stereo one also to make sure it lines up the same way.
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Hykker MusicFan
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Bill Cahill wrote:
I compared the mono DJ edit to the mono full length side. They track together up until 2:24. That's about where the edit is, either on "Sister Susie" or the beat right before it. That means to create the DJ edit you edit out 2:24 to 3:34 and then fade the to the 3:44 end, as the short version never comes back for the cold ending. |
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Always surprised me they didn't edit the Westminster chimes from the promo edit...it seemed that many/most stations cued past that anyway (I usually did).
Edited by Hykker on 12 July 2011 at 6:05am
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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Was there ever a DJ edit for "Give Ireland Back To The
Irish." Also, is there no difference between the a-side
and b-side of the single (both have a listed time of 3:42
and my digital file runs that length)?
Edited by Santi Paradoa on 09 April 2014 at 7:52pm
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jimct MusicFan
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Santi, it seems that each and every Beatles and/or solo/solo-ish 45 on
Apple must be looked at individually (or is detailed in that Paul Haney-
recommeded Beatles book, that I've had in my Amazon cart for 4 months
now, waiting for some spare cash flow to finally order!)
US stock 45s for Apple 1847 were white with the green shamrocks, had
the hit version on one side, and an instrumental track of the song on the
other, with some mumbling by Paul interspersed - this side had (version)
after the song title.
I have only ever seen US plain white label issues of it, all stamped with
"TEST PRESSING - SIDE ONE" Some have a handwritten "Paul & Linda
McCartney & Wings" artist and song title info on it. Some don't. His
previous 45, "Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey" showed the artist as by "Paul &
Linda McCartney", and I'm quite certain that the accountants at Capitol
were thoroughly resistant to the idea of Paul making his new "Wings"
group moniker official on vinyl, fearing that omitting McCartney's name
from his new group's 45s could hurt sales. But McCartney clearly insisted,
as both this and his next two stock singles went only by "Wings". This
must've remained a point of contention with the suits, however, with
1973's "My Love" becoming the first apparent "compromise band name" -
Paul McCartney & Wings. It hit #1, so it stayed this way for the next 5 45s.
It eventually reverted back to just Wings, however, for 1975's "Listen To
What The Man Said."
These "Ireland" test pressings do show the clear confusion/panic with the
overall "Wings Issue" at that very moment, though. It's another reason why
I enjoy promo 45s so much - they can sometimes provide some extra
light on things going on at that instant. A mini-diary, if you will.
I've never happened to see a T.P. offered while an auction for one was
active, but they almost always sold for over $100. That said, and for what
it's worth, I have absolutely no info to indicate that what appeared on
those US test pressings wasn't also exactly what appeared on the 1972 US
stock copies.
If I ever do snag one, however, I promise to report back on it for you,
Santi!
Edited by jimct on 09 April 2014 at 9:15pm
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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Bruce Spizer's excellent book doesn't show (or even mention) a promo 45 for this particular title, although he does show a picture of the test pressing that Jim references above.
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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Thank you Jim and Paul.
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The Hits Man MusicFan
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I don't have the patience to write down all the editing
instructions, but Crapfromthepast is very good at
explaining things to non-technical people. I'm sure that
if anyone needs help, he could provide info.
I have had to recreate a few edits myself. I recently did
"Band On The Run" and the live "Maybe I'm Amazed".
I need the 45 of "Getting Closer".
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Paul Haney MusicFan
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I've been searching for DJ edits the past couple of years and have had trouble finding 3 of the McCartney/Wings edits:
Jet (2:49)
Band On The Run (3:50)
Let 'Em In (3:43)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Bill Cahill MusicFan
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As long as we're discussing the McCartney DJ edits, the database notes a 2:49 and 2:42 edit of "Jet". Does
anybody know, is the 2:42 edit just an early fade of the 2:49 edit?
Edited by Bill Cahill on 29 August 2016 at 5:02am
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eriejwg MusicFan
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I have a mono DJ edit for "Jet" (can't remember the
source) but it fades from approx. 2:41 to 2:52.
It's possible the 2:42 edit may be an even earlier fade.
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I do not recall who sent me the information on the (2:42) edit of "Jet" so if anyone has a copy please step forward with the existence of such a release. The copy I have states (2:49) and runs (2:54).
Edited by Pat Downey on 02 September 2016 at 4:43pm
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Yah Shure MusicFan
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The mono side of my "Jet" DJ 45 states (2:49), but runs (2:54).
It's a Los Angeles-pressed, Wally Traugott cutting. Deadwax: "Wly PRO-6827 - F - 1 •", "*" and "MASTERED BY CAPITOL"
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eriejwg MusicFan
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I re-timed my file and it runs 2:54.
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Ron S MusicFan
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Paul Haney wrote:
I've been searching for DJ edits the past couple of
years and have had trouble finding 3 of the McCartney/Wings edits:
Jet (2:49)
Band On The Run (3:50)
Let 'Em In (3:43)
Any help would be greatly appreciated! |
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Add Silly Love Songs to this list.
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garye MusicFan
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I have 45 dubs of Jet Mono, Band On The Run Stereo Edit,
Let 'Em In, stereo, and Silly Love Songs, Stereo edit. I
havbe the mono edits of Band, Let'Em, and Silly love
Songs somewhere, but those I first mentioned are in a
folder. Again they are 45 dubs in MP3 but if anyone
wants any of these, actually have dubs of all McCartney
45's from 70's to early 80's including radio edits, PM
me.
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vanmeter MusicFan
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I am still not entirely clear about "Let 'Em In" - does the short DJ edit fade at the end or ends cold? Reading the responses several times it seems like it's indicated both ways.
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There's a 3:03 edit from a white label promo 45 that
someone uploaded to YouTube which contains the opening
chimes but fades out before the "fake fade" and cold
ending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSqamq4DIDc
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garye MusicFan
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vanmeter wrote:
I am still not entirely clear about
"Let 'Em In" - does the short DJ edit fade at the end or
ends cold? Reading the responses several times it seems
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The Promo I have of Let Em In from 1976 fades out.
Mine also does not have the doorbell opening, which some
promos had.
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Hykker MusicFan
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Has anyone ever tracked down a copy of the 2:42 edit of
"Jet"?
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garye MusicFan
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Never seen a 2:42 edit of Jet.
Have had 4 promo copies over the years and all say 2:49.
but time out at 2:54.
If it exist would be pretty rare, and might even be a
test pressing.
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