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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 9:25am | IP Logged
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Not to my knowledge were the edits of LGC and LRC ever released as
lossless downloads. The old Backtrax CD single has LRC, but there's a
dropout on that CD at 1:00 which is not on the 4Ever comp.
I understand your logic on why they may not be new transfers, but all of
the peak limiting/brickwalling happens during mastering. If the engineer
wanted to use that technique, why not apply it to every track, including
the digital clones from other CDs? As far as I can tell, the songs that
are loud toward the end of disc 2 were also that way on their original
CDs. Given that Moonbeam Levels comes from a bootleg CD, it's hard
to say what that song was like on that disc.
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crapfromthepast MusicFan
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 9:44am | IP Logged
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Good points.
I didn't know about the bootleg CD, but that makes sense. There's a lot of stuff that's leaked out of the vault over the years, usually in pretty dismal quality.
Thanks for your help with the analysis. Lots of worthwhile tracks here (yay, Alphabet St.!), and probably the best sound quality we can ever expect for most of them.
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 12:33pm | IP Logged
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Yeah, a lot of the fans were very disappointed to learn that it's a rip
from a bootleg called Blast From The Past 2.0. If you listen to the track
closely, you'll see there is a lot of NR applied to remove tape hiss. The
fade out is especially bad. That track did not come from the master
tape, as everyone was hoping.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 12:58pm | IP Logged
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Poking my head in for the discussion here. Was the
'album edit' of "7" ever played on the radio? Or, was it
always the 45 version?
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 1:20pm | IP Logged
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It was the lead track on the promo CD single, so I'd imagine it did get
played on some stations.
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 2:43pm | IP Logged
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A real shame that the source used for the previously unreleased track ends up being a bootleg. The real test comes in the first quarter of 2017 when the promised deluxe CD reissue of the Purple Rain LP is finally supposed to be released. If they don't go in to the vault for outtakes, demos and/or unreleased tracks for that release then I will simply stick with my current CD copy of this classic '80s album (every song on it is a gem).
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 3:04pm | IP Logged
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Top Hits U.S.A. back in 1992, for whatever reason,
issued the 'acoustic edit' to its subscribers that ran
3:53. I don't think anyone played that, even though
there was a one-track CD single issued I believe.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 4:14pm | IP Logged
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I should clarify that was for the song '7'.
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aaronk Admin Group
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Posted: 30 November 2016 at 6:44pm | IP Logged
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Yes, I do also have that 1-track promo. The same Acoustic Version was on the main 7-track promo CD single, too.
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