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Paul Haney
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kingofskiffle wrote:
Have you thought about adding the
1940-1954 data to it? Maybe for the
2020 edition? 80 years of Billboard charts? Not going to
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Would add WAY more than a few pages; probably over 100 at
least. I highly doubt it will ever start earlier than
1955.
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kingofskiffle wrote:
Have you thought about adding the 1940-1954 data to it? Maybe for the
2020 edition? 80 years of Billboard charts? Not going to add more than
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The singles part of "Pop Hits 1940-1954" is about 120 pages. They are the smaller book size so it would likely add 80 or so pages with the larger size book. Of course both the R&B and C&W books go all the way back to the first charts so it kind of makes sense that all three were the same, but how many pounds would that book weigh? Probably a tad bit smaller than the "Top Pop Albums 1955-2016" book.
The Hot 100 hasn't been a "Pop" chart for quite some time now so using Top Pop Singles in the title is not 100% accurate. Maybe call the book "Top Hot 100 Singles" but then again the Hot 100 didn't start until 1958 so what do you do with 1955-1958?. Damn if you do, damn if you don't! Doesn't bother me either way because I have never looked at my "Top Pop Singles 1955-2015" except for the day I bought it. I will not be buying the updated book (have bought everyone since the 3rd edition) because I will never read it.
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Paul Haney
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Books arrived here yesterday afternoon (3/19). All orders
are now being shipped!
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Paul Haney wrote:
Well, it's finally happening!
We are now taking pre-orders for Radio & Records Top
Pop Hits 1973-2009. Order now and save $10! Book
should be out sometime in February 2019. Lots of
different chart peaks from the Billboard Hot 100.
Go to our website for more details! |
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Do you have the link to the website?
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Paul,
Next up Top Pop Singles 1955-2018?
I wonder if at some point the print size will get to be too many pages that you will have to do a 1955-2024 Book 1 and Book 2 for example. I could see 1940-1954 being added if that were the case.
By the way been curious, for the non-hot 100 airplay hits for an artist how do you determine if it gets listed or not. For example Miles Away by Madonna got a lot of airplay in 2008 but never charted at all if I recall, yet its not listed in her hits like Into the Groove etc are.
It would be hard to draw the line as to what is classic and what is not I would think.
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Miles Away did make #1 single sales and #2 on the dance
chart, though. Miles Away was mentioned in the 1955-2012
edition - granted, it was in the back of the book in the
#1 sales-only hits section (page 1090)
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Paul Haney
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Ron S wrote:
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Just go to recordresearch.com
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PopArchivist wrote:
Paul,
Next up Top Pop Singles 1955-2018?
I wonder if at some point the print size will get to be
too many pages that you will have to do a 1955-2024 Book
1 and Book 2 for example. I could see 1940-1954 being
added if that were the case.
By the way been curious, for the non-hot 100 airplay hits
for an artist how do you determine if it gets listed or
not. For example Miles Away by Madonna got a lot of
airplay in 2008 but never charted at all if I recall, yet
its not listed in her hits like Into the Groove etc are.
It would be hard to draw the line as to what is classic
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Yes, we're hard at work on Top Pop Singles 1955-2018.
The "Classic Non-Hot 100 Songs" are just an added bonus.
There are some qualifications (#1 on another chart, did
it receive an industry award, did it get a lot of airplay
as an album cut, etc.), but it's also based on the Record
Research staff's subjective opinion as well. Obviously,
there will be some arguments over what constitutes such a
thing. We don't even always agree among ourselves, but
Joel has the final say on what gets in.
We've always shied away from splitting the books into
separate volumes. Not too many customers would be
willing to pay for two volumes and it would also double
our printing costs. As for doing e-books, those just
haven't taken off as we had hoped. Most of our customers
still want the print books.
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Just got my copy and it's a hit! It's especially fun to browse through to find the entries that didn't crack the Top Pop Singles book.
Paul, nicely done and thanks for your stellar work!
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Paul Haney
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Yah Shure wrote:
Just got my copy and it's a hit! It's
especially fun to browse through to find the entries that
didn't crack the Top Pop Singles book.
Paul, nicely done and thanks for your stellar work!
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Greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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Awesome book! I'm so happy to finally have a book covering all of the Radio & Records CHR charts. The site has been a handy reference for many years, but it doesn't feel "definitive" until Joel and Paul put it in print. :)
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Paul Haney
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aaronk wrote:
Awesome book! I'm so happy to finally
have a book covering all of the Radio & Records CHR
charts. The site has been a handy reference for many
years, but it doesn't feel "definitive" until Joel and
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Thanks you, Aaron. Putting this book together was one of
my favorite projects!
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I'm anxiously awaiting my copy, so I'm glad to hear that others
have received theirs so I know mine is on its way. :)
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I got my copy a few days ago, haven't had a chance to really go through it yet, but from what I've seen, I love it. Paul, I can see this book being one of your favorite projects! I've always loved the R&R charts; and although I had some notebook I bought from them that compiled their charted hits, having this official book is much better.
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JMD1961 wrote:
The Mainstream Top 40 (Pop Songs) chart in Billboard is
actually the continuation of the R&R CHR chart. From
2006 to 2009, Billboard owned R&R, and both publications
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How does Billboard's "Pop Songs" chart (available online but not in the magazine) differ from their "Mainstream Top 40" chart (available in the magazine but not online)? I know the "Mainstream Top 40" chart has only 30 songs (ironically), not 40 like "Pop songs". But are they tabulated differently? And if so, how? (and have they always been?) It's odd if this is the same chart but titled differently depending on online vs. magazine!
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EdisonLite wrote:
How does Billboard's "Pop Songs"
chart (available online but not in the magazine) differ
from their "Mainstream Top 40" chart (available in the
magazine but not online)? I know the "Mainstream Top 40"
chart has only 30 songs (ironically), not 40 like "Pop
songs". But are they tabulated differently? And if so,
how? (and have they always been?) It's odd if this is the
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I believe that THAT is actually the case, though. I
can't say for certain,however, as I don't ever look at
the published magazine. Just online. Likewise, I
believe that the online "Adult Pop Songs" chart is still
referred to as "Adult Top 40" in the magazine.
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EdisonLite wrote:
How does Billboard's "Pop Songs" chart
(available online but not in the magazine) differ from
their "Mainstream Top 40" chart (available in the magazine
but not online)? I know the "Mainstream Top 40" chart has
only 30 songs (ironically), not 40 like "Pop songs". But
are they tabulated differently? And if so, how? (and have
they always been?) It's odd if this is the same chart but
titled differently depending on online vs. magazine!
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Yes, same chart, different names.
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The "Mainstream Top 40" chart IS 40 titles deep, not 30. They curtail it on the
magazine for reasons of space. The chart is called "Pop Songs" online as that
has a punchier and better branded name to use in all of their Chartbeat
columns. On Billboard.biz and the magazine, it is Mainstream Top 40 as
apparently that is the source used by Music Professionals who work in the
business (and the radio format, Mainstream Top 40), who wouldn't know what
"Pop Songs" really alludes to.
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Hmmm... I think this calls for a new Record Research book, "Billboard Top Pop Radio Airplay", going back to whenever BB started their separate pop radio airplay charts. Mid 80's? (Thus, a BB parallel to the new Radio & Records book, with potentially many more records/chart positions, and continuing into the future.)
Because today's Hot 100 is not a pop radio format chart, it's an "every-format-squashed-together" chart.
Wink wink, nudge nudge... Groovy baby, yeah!
Who's with me? Thanks Paul, if...
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Anybody else having trouble accessing the record research website? I
can’t access right now getting a server error message.
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