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Posted: 29 September 2019 at 3:40pm | IP Logged Quote Scanner

Wow, I was not expecting so many replies...thank you
all! Unfortunately, the 4/9/88 issue saved on
americanradiohistory.com does not have the insert and
Google Books does not even have that issue.

This does explain why country essentially disappeared
from the Hot 100 in the late '80's until the Soundscan
era began. (Ironically, so many country songs charted
thereafter since a record label was more likely to
release a country cassingle than a pop one hoping to
drive album sales instead.)

Here's another example from my original question -
Johnny Lee's "Bet Your Heart On Me." It spent a week
atop the Country chart and made # 54 on the Hot 100.
Was it a pop crossover just as "Lookin' For Love" was
(# 3 Pop, # 10 AC)? Or did it just sell so well that
it was able to chart that high on the Hot 100? "Bet"
never reached the AC chart.
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Posted: 30 September 2019 at 4:04am | IP Logged Quote Paul Haney

I can confirm that indeed it first appeared in the
Billboard issue dated April 9, 1988.

Here is the link for the insert:
https://americanradiohistory.com/
ArchiveBillboard/Billboard-How-we-track-the-hits.pdf

As for "Bet Your Heart On Me" I would guess that it got
at least some Top 40 airplay in 1981, but not enough to
make much of a dent on the Hot 100. As a #1 Country hit,
I'm sure most of its points came from sales.

Edited by Paul Haney on 30 September 2019 at 11:54am
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Thanks for the link, Paul. This explains why the
country superstars of the late '80's such as Randy
Travis and the Judds never charted on the Hot 100.
Although they likely had the sales, they did not have
the crossover airplay. It would have been interesting
if Billboard had published something like this in the
'70's as well.
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Posted: 01 October 2019 at 4:48am | IP Logged Quote RoknRobnLoxley

Hmmm... this link doesn't work for me for some strange reason, "page not found." But I probably have this insert in my stash upstairs in a box.

I noticed that a lot of the UK chart magazines on AmericanRadioHistory.com have suddenly vanished from the overhead menu boxes, but are still in the home page index. Scared me for a sec! Then read over on the 'site features-latest additions' that David has been reorganizing the UK magazines and search capabilities. Maybe he's moving around Billboard archive special pdf's as well.

It sure would be fab if we could get all these special Billboard rules across the decades listed and documented somewhere. I agree that updates to methodology are needed as technology advances, yada yada, but there sure were/are a lot of manipulative chart rules that Billboard put on over the years to favor some records over others. New records over old records. The UK likewise now has all these special chart rules put in to deal with streaming. It sure is crazy these days as to what a 'single' is, but I digress...

Edit: Ha, I discovered the insert off to the side, Paul's link needed a www. for me to work:

https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Billboard/Billb oard-How-we-track-the-hits.pdf
   
Dagnabbit, the link isn't being saved correctly, you'll need to close the space between the b and the o in the second Billboard.

Edited by RoknRobnLoxley on 01 October 2019 at 5:18am
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