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Hykker MusicFan
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Jody Thornton wrote:
Also the Charlie Daniels Band
"Devil Went Down to Georgia" is censored on the radio
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I just have the promo 45 of this, which set of lyrics is
on commercial singles?
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Santi Paradoa MusicFan
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The commercial 45 has the "son of a gun" lyric right before the three minute mark. It's the LP that has the "son of a bitch" lyric (for the Charlie Daniels Band's "The Devil Went Down To Georgia").
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AdvprosD MusicFan
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I actually have a lot more Country music than I would have liked to admit. Especially, thirty years ago. Doing mobile parties did help me round out my contemporary, as well as classic country knowledge.
I only learned a few years back that Eddie Rabbitt had passed in a similar manner as the recent Chadwick Boseman, of Black Panther.
Today, I was yet again working in my basement and had a mix playing of just about everything I have ripped to mp3. I noticed that the song "Drivin' My Life Away" by Eddie Rabbit sounded a bit different.
If any of the country folks have a history of this song and possibly any version data, I'd sure like to know about it.
To me, the version I had on sounded like it had a lot less reverb in the vocal track. I would have to listen to it again to be sure. Also, there seemed to be a number of differences in inflection as well.
I'm still trying my best to keep focused on getting these CDs of mine onto shelves and out of box storage. So, if I happen to find the version, or versions I'll report back. Of course, if anyone has the
information handy, I'll be back to read about it. At least I know I have CD sources to compare all my possible versions.
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davidlg1971 MusicFan
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AdvprosD wrote:
Today, I was yet again working in my
basement and had a mix playing of just about everything I
have ripped to mp3. I noticed that the song "Drivin' My
Life Away" by Eddie Rabbit sounded a bit different.
If any of the country folks have a history of this song and
possibly any version data, I'd sure like to know about it.
To me, the version I had on sounded like it had a lot less
reverb in the vocal track. I would have to listen to it
again to be sure. Also, there seemed to be a number of
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10 years ago I bought Eddie Rabbitt's "Number One Hits"
compilation - great sound. I compared the song "Step By
Step" to a prior copy of the track I had; the older one
sounded fuller, livelier. Turns out it was from a 1990
Greatest Hits CD, which was mostly re-recordings mixed with
a few recent tunes:
https://www.discogs.com/Eddie-Rabbitt-Ten-Years-Of-
Greatest-Hits/release/13697430
It's possible your alternate "Drivin' My Life Away"
originates from that CD too.
Edited by davidlg1971 on 10 September 2020 at 11:57pm
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Bumping up for Robert.
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AdvprosD MusicFan
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I am still trying to find my Eddie Rabbitt CD with all the re-recordings. Sooner or later, I'm bound to find it for comparisons.
As for country that seems to be played at weddings, I remember never being able to scoot until I played Kenny Rogers "Lucille."
Not country, but the Gloria Gaynor "I Will Survive" was also just as popular as the Electric Slide.
People pick odd stuff for weddings.
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CountryPD MusicFan
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Longtime reader that just registered to post in this forum. I’ve
gotten a LOT of great music info from this site over the years
and have great respect and admiration for the experts and
collectors that share their vast knowledge here.
Although I do enjoy older pop/Top 40 music too I’m primarily a
lifelong fan of country music. 40+ years in country radio both on-
air and as a program director. Very familiar with 20th century
country hits and have a huge personal library of country 45’s,
LP’s & CD’s.
Many radio promo 45’s, CD singles & compilations are in my
collection so hopefully I can answer some of the questions
concerning country single versions & radio edits as well as their
CD availability. There were many country single edits & remixes
especially during the 1980’s & 90’s. I’m still discovering some of
them to this day as my station played the 45’s on the radio (or
dubbed them to cartridge tapes) so I did not do an A/B
comparison to the album version for every song. When CD
singles became pervasive, we played those until we transitioned
to a digital system and played all music from a hard drive.
Looking forward to participating in the conversation.
Edited by CountryPD on 31 July 2023 at 10:48am
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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Thanks Ken, for your offer to us. So are so many '80s and late '70s singles I
have on CD, but I have no idea if there would single mixes/edits or not. So I
wouldn't know where to begin to ask you questions. Have you made a
database or listing of country songs that do have a single mix? If you've
already done the data, that might be easier than me listing off a bunch of
songs and asking if they've had dedicated single mixes.
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CountryPD MusicFan
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Sorry I don't have a database to share but I'll do my best to
answer posts here. I'm adding country hits to my hard-drive
library from CD & vinyl dubs so as I encounter single edits &
remixes I'll post that info in this thread..
To follow up on a song mentioned early in this thread:
Amarillo By Morning - George Strait [1983 / #4] - the
alternate single mix was issued on the 1992 CD "The Early 80's
- Pure Gold" volume of the Time/Life Contemporary Country
series [CCD-09]
I consulted that Time/Life series back in the 90's and furnished
reference tape dubs of the 45's for comparison. Time/Life
requested the single master tapes from the licensing labels.
They were successful in obtaining them in most cases.
Other single versions on that CD are:
I Ain't Living Long Like This - Waylon Jennings [1980 - #1] -
3:34 edit - eliminates long instrumental ending from 5:01 LP
version
The Closer You Get - Alabama [1983 - #1] - 3:35 single edit
- this single version is also available on several Alabama
RCA hit comps
Elvira - Oak Ridge Boys [1981 - #1] - 2:36 single edit
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CountryPD MusicFan
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Clint Black single hit versions that differ from LP versions
List of singles that charted significantly - does not include every
edited Clint Black single. Single time is followed by LP time
Better Man [1989/#1] - 2:52/3:03
NOTE: Promo single was titled Better Man. Stock
45 and LP version added "A" to the title - A Better Man.
We Tell Ourselves [1992/#2] - 3:37/4:38
State Of Mind [1994/#2] - 2:43/3:54
A Good Run Of Bad Luck [1994/#1] - 2:42/2:42 - sound
effects deleted from single
Wherever You Go [1995/#3] - 3:49/4:35
Like The Rain [1996/#1] - 3:30/4:25
Half Way Up [1997/#6] - 3:35/3:58
Nothin' But The Taillights [1998/#1] - 3:47/3:50 - sound
effects on intro deleted from single.
NOTE: time listed on the vinyl 45 & CD single incorrectly
list 3:25. Actual time is 3:47.
The Shoes You're Wearing [1998/#1] - 3:30/3:53
When I Said I Do (with Lisa Hartman Black) [1999/#1] -
4:05/4:29
Been There (with Steve Wariner) [2000/#5] - Radio edit
3:47/5:27
NOTE: Radio edit was released on the Steve Wariner
Capitol Records Nashville album "Faith In You."
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Keep the country singles/mix differences coming and if any
of the edits are in their 45 versions on CD.
On the Time-Life collection, is Old Hippie the 45 version?
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Nothing But The Taillights can't be edited down to the 45
version as the sound effects bleed over the intro on the LP
version.
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eriejwg MusicFan
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When I Said I Do removes from 0.00-23.643 or so of the
intro to create the single edit.
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EdisonLite MusicFan
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CountryPD wrote:
I'll do my best to
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Thanks. I'll probably put up a list here (or maybe in parts), as I have no idea if
single mixes/edits were put out.
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CountryPD MusicFan
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eriejwg wrote:
On the Time-Life collection, is Old Hippie the 45 version?
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No it's the LP version.
Time/Life requested the single version with the "just too damn
old" lyric but MCA could not locate the tape in their vaults so the
album version was used. To this day the single version has
never shown up on a Bellamy Bros. hits collection or on an MCA
various artists compilation. Our speculation at the time was that
the single tape was misfiled or lost.
But since the 2008 Universal vault fire it's likely gone forever.
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Joe Diffie Epic single hit versions that differ from LP versions
List of singles that charted significantly - does not include every
edited Joe Diffie single. Single time is followed by LP time
Honky Tonk Attitude [1993/#5] - 3:26/3:47 - single omits
one repeated verse from 2:45-3:04 following the instrumental
break
Prop Me Up Beside The Jukebox (If I Die) [1993/#3] -
3:16/3:46 - Promo CD single omits one repetition of the chorus
from 2:28-2:57.
ChicagoBill added that the vinyl 45 single contains the
album version so the edit is exclusive to the Promo CD single
release.
John Deere Green [1994/#5] - 3:36/4:31 - Single is a
different recording than the LP version and cannot be re-created
by editing. To date the single version has not been issued on a
commercial CD. It was released on a vinyl 45 & cassette single
and as a promo CD single for radio.
Third Rock From The Sun [1994/#1] - 2:45/3:04 - single
eliminates spoken words & sound effects on intro & outro of the
album version. Single version was issued on the 1998 Joe Diffie
Greatest Hits album on Epic
Although the listed timings of a few of Diffie's 1994 - 2002
singles vary by just a few seconds from their album
counterparts, I could not find any noticeable content differences.
Joe re-recorded some of his hits - original versions were
released by Sony/BMG - Epic or Monument.
During the "Hot Country" era some of Joe's 1990's singles were
remixed as extended dance versions for clubs. Some of those
CD singles are listed on eBay from time to time. However none
were the actual "hits."
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Welcome Ken! Just to let you know, my EPIC 45RPM single (34-77071) of 'Prop Me Up...' states
the time as 3:46 and indeed runs that length. I believe only the promo CD single has the 3:16
edit. -Bill.
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CountryPD MusicFan
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ChicagoBill wrote:
Welcome Ken! Just to let you know, my
EPIC 45RPM single (34-77071) of 'Prop Me Up...' states
the time as 3:46 and indeed runs that length. I believe only the
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Bill - Thanks for the welcome & adding that info. I've updated my
post.
When record labels began releasing promo CD singles to radio
they ceased sending us the vinyl 45's. I recall that some smaller
stations without the capability to play CD's on-air still received
45 service for a time. Labels also continued to press a limited
number of 45's for jukebox use.
So like many other radio folks I no longer had access to 45's by
the early 90's. Of course there are several sites online where
you can view the 45 labels but without hearing the actual record
it's impossible to confirm the content. So thanks for giving us
confirmation about that release. One of many instances where
the version on the promo single and the stock single differ.
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Many of Alabama's singles were edited which included:
1)"My Home's In Alabama" early fade
2)"Dixieland Delight" edits fiddle solo
3)"Mountain Music" edits spoken intro and drum solo
4)"Roll on" edits out truck intro and penultimate chorus
5)"If you're gonna play in Texas" eliminates intro and
one chorus before bridge
6)"Take me down" eliminates second chorus and goes into
bridge from second verse
7)"Closer you get" eliminates a verse
8)"Why lady why" has a minute shaved off at a glance
9)"She and I" on the album versions from Greatest hits 1
has a false fade which isn't present on the 45.
There may be more but most are available on For the
Record
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eriejwg MusicFan
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Thanks everyone! Keep the country single edit instructions
coming!
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