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Posted: 30 April 2020 at 12:42pm | IP Logged Quote eriejwg

What's the song Doug?

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PopArchivist wrote:
sriv94 wrote:
Any ideas?


See if it is available on CD. What is the specific file you want? Is it available outside of Itunes? It just might be.

At this point I am sure that something exists to remove the DRM but I wouldnt pay money to download software to do that.

Just my two cents. Otherwise I cant suggest much.


Too late--I sprang for TuneFab Apple Music Converter. Not the greatest job in the world, though--it does convert the file fairly quickly,
but it relies on iTunes to play the file to convert it, and every once in a while the first second or so of another track pops up onto the
end of the file (which then means I have to reconvert it in iTunes with the last two seconds chopped off). Since I already have the files
organized into playlists, it's a chore to reinsert them, as you'll see below.

eriejwg wrote:
What's the song Doug?


The mono 45 mix of the Rolling Stones' "Street Fightin' Man." That one was taken care of (after two conversions). But there's only
582 more files to reconvert. So I'll be finished by the time this pandemic is. :)



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sriv94 wrote:
Alas, that doesn't work either. I get
an error message regardless of format saying
"protected files cannot be converted to other
formats."


I'll preface this by saying that I've thusfar made a
point of avoiding anything Apple (and this thread has
only strengthened my dislike of this company), but you
might want to try playing the affected song(s) with I-
tunes and re-recording them with Audition, Audacity or
whatever your favorite DAW software is, then save it
in the format of your choice. Yeah, it adds a
generation to the dub, but most modern soundcards are
pretty quiet (and if it'd done thru the Windows mixer
it may not do D-A/A-D conversions).
Time consuming, but it might be your only option.
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Here is my alternative way to go. Download a free program called Virtual DJ 8 (or whatever version they are up to). If you are using it for non-
monetary gain it is free if I recall.


Have a question about this program--not sure how much experience you have with it, Richie, but maybe you know the answer to this.

I have found when I try to play the Billy Joel song "Allentown" that the cue always starts in the middle of the construction air horn, instead of at
the beginning (which makes for a real jarring beginning of the song). Even if I insert some silence at the beginning of the file using a program
like WavePad, it still doesn't want to cue at the very beginning unless I force it to (but then I can't save the setting the next time I want to play
the song).

Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong?

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Hi Doug,

I've used Virtual DJ for years now. To eliminate the issue
you're having, open Virtual DJ and click on settings at
the top right part of your screen. Once settings is open,
type AutoCue. Change the setting from Skip Silence to No.

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eriejwg wrote:
Hi Doug,

I've used Virtual DJ for years now. To eliminate the issue
you're having, open Virtual DJ and click on settings at
the top right part of your screen. Once settings is open,
type AutoCue. Change the setting from Skip Silence to No.


Thx, John. That did the trick.

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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 1:00pm | IP Logged Quote sriv94

sriv94 wrote:
PopArchivist wrote:
sriv94 wrote:
Any ideas?


See if it is available on CD. What is the specific file you want? Is it available outside of Itunes? It just might
be.

At this point I am sure that something exists to remove the DRM but I wouldnt pay money to download software to do
that.

Just my two cents. Otherwise I cant suggest much.


Too late--I sprang for TuneFab Apple Music Converter. Not the greatest job in the world, though--it does convert
the file fairly quickly,
but it relies on iTunes to play the file to convert it, and every once in a while the first second or so of
another track pops up onto the end of the file (which then means I have to reconvert it in iTunes with the last
two seconds chopped off). Since I already have the files organized into playlists, it's a chore to reinsert them,
as you'll see below.

eriejwg wrote:
What's the song Doug?


The mono 45 mix of the Rolling Stones' "Street Fightin' Man." That one was taken care of (after two conversions).
But there's only 582 more files to reconvert. So I'll be finished by the time this pandemic is. :)



OK, there's a somewhat sad postscript to this. I found a bunch of iTunes song files that have the first second or
so of another track tacked on at the end. So I copied said files to WavePad (27 so far, with a lot more to come),
where I could get rid of the glitch (for lack of a better term), but it wouldn't let me save the .M4A files as
.M4A files. So I had to save them as .WAV files (although I could just as easily have used .MP3, but that's not
really germane to the story). What is germane to the story is now I have two files of the same song, and I want
to copy the iTunes track information from the old file to the new file without having to type everything out
longhand. Apple Support wasn't any help. (Surprise, surprise.)

Anyone have any thoughts? I've seen posts with Apple's community about scripts that can be run to isolate the
info, but it doesn't really tell me how to run them or what to do (and the posts are from like eight years ago).

/And yes, I know some of you despise Apple and/or iTunes, but it's what I got, so I gotta work with it.

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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 1:22pm | IP Logged Quote Brian W.

Create a macro to copy the tag information from one file to
the other? You'd probably have to do it track by track, but
it would be easier than typing it all out for each track...
you'd just have to hit your key combination to start the
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Brian W. wrote:
Create a macro to copy the tag information from one file
to

the other? You'd probably have to do it track by track, but

it would be easier than typing it all out for each track...

you'd just have to hit your key combination to start the

macro.




No idea how to even do macros. And I’m working in Windows.

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I run Windows. I use a free program called Mp3tag to take care of all my tagging.

You can literally copy and paste tags from file to file. It will even do it in batches, for a group of files. I do this all the time when I convert from one format to another. You can put flac (or mp4) in the same directory or a different directory, open the two directories in Mp3tag at the same time, sort by file type (so that the subgroups are in the same order), and copy-and-paste just like MSWord.

You can also read specific tags in from an external file, which is handy if you have a track listing from somewhere else and don't want to type everything in. You can also run some routines that fix the capitalization of everything, or replace & with And, or replace commas, question marks, and exclamation points with nothing. And so forth.

Mp3tag. And it's free.

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crapfromthepast wrote:
I run Windows. I use a free program called Mp3tag to take care of all my tagging.

You can literally copy and paste tags from file to file. It will even do it in batches, for a group of files. I do
this all the time when I convert from one format to another. You can put flac (or mp4) in the same directory or a
different directory, open the two directories in Mp3tag at the same time, sort by file type (so that the subgroups are
in the same order), and copy-and-paste just like MSWord.

You can also read specific tags in from an external file, which is handy if you have a track listing from somewhere
else and don't want to type everything in. You can also run some routines that fix the capitalization of everything,
or replace & with And, or replace commas, question marks, and exclamation points with nothing. And so forth.

Mp3tag. And it's free.


OK, I've downloaded the software.

It seems I've isolated the problem files to anything I updated between May and June 2020 (which is still a ton of
files--over 2000 of them). How can I get MP3Tag to just find those particular files to get the tags?

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sriv94 wrote:

It seems I've isolated the problem files to anything I updated between May and June 2020 (which is still a ton of
files--over 2000 of them). How can I get MP3Tag to just find those particular files to get the tags?


Is it possible to sort by date modified and just highlight those with those dates, and then drag and drop them into MP3Tag?

Also, try dragging the WAV files you created into MP3Tag and see if the WAV files have tags. Are you sure the tags didn't convert as well?

If they don't, then Ron is right, you should be able to use MP3Tag to copy a batch of tags from the iTunes files to your new WAV files, possibly even all of them at once. However, I think your m4a and WAV files will need to be
in exactly the same order as each other when they're in MP3Tag. But MP3Tag sorts them alphabetically by file name, so if your WAV files have the same file names as your original iTunes files, you should be good.

So try it:

Drag and drop a few m4a files into MP3Tag. Then highlight all the files by hovering your cursor over the list of files and hitting CONTROL and the letter A on your keyboard. Now right click on your mouse and select "Tag Copy" in
the menu that pops up.

Then press the Delete key to delete the files from MP3Tag. (This does not delete the files themselves.)

Next, drop the WAVs of those same songs into MP3Tag. Check to see that they're in the same order from top to bottom -- they should be, if the file names are the same as the m4a files. Again, select all the WAVs with CONTROL-A,
then right-click and select "Tag Paste." Finally, press the "Save" button in the upper left. This should have pasted the iTunes tags into your WAV files.

Can't guarantee it'll work, but it's worth a shot.




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Posted: 08 July 2022 at 6:37am | IP Logged Quote sriv94

Copying the files into WavePad does remove the tags, unfortunately (since my copy is a free version that
doesn’t allow me to save M4As as M4As—I have to save them as WAVs then convert them in iTunes—and some
tags [like artwork] don’t save in WAV files).

I’m en route to my office, so I’ll give your suggestion a try upon my arrival.    

Thx, Brian!

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That worked like a charm. Thx, Brian!

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eriejwg wrote:
Hi Doug,

I've used Virtual DJ for years now. To eliminate the issue
you're having, open Virtual DJ and click on settings at
the top right part of your screen. Once settings is open,
type AutoCue. Change the setting from Skip Silence to No.


I'm glad this original topic was posted as "Off topic."

I was using PCDJ Red up until I quit the business of DJing. It was a simple program, or "App" if you will. I always liked the simplicity of it and the fact that despite all
the inherent problems with Windows back then, it seemed to perform without issue. I haven't looked much into Virtual DJ, but gather it is a lot like the newest versions of PCDJ.
Add to the fact that I could keep all the actual music on a separate drive, and swap out a drive in a pinch. (Back when solid state hard drives cost more than my house.)

I have to admit, when DJ software started taking off online, it all began to look the same. I never looked into Tractor, but heard it was pretty good too.

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