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The good folks in the chart department at Billboard have asked me what the last (most recent) #1
Hot 100 hit was that WAS ONLY COMMERCIALLY RELEASED ON A VINYL 7" SINGLE??? We all figure it had
to be mid-to-late 1980s.
I simply don't have the time to fully research this and I figured that if anyone would have the
answer, it would be someone in this group. Any ideas???
Also, they were wondering about the last Hot 100 to be FULLY made up of vinyl 7" singles only.
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Paul, I think the 2nd part of your question could coincide with the debut of the cassette
singles, since they were around before CD singles. -Bill.
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When Bryan Adams “Heat Of The Night” was released, it was hailed as
the first cassette single. What I don’t know is whether labels
subsequently released cassette singles of songs already available on
7-inch singles.
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And then there is the case of some 12" singles that were released and yet no 7" singles were done. I
consider them mostly 'one-offs' and not a trend, if that's what they are looking for. -Bill.
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They are more interested in the first part of the question (the last #1 on vinyl only) than the second part.
Not sure if they are taking 12" vinyl into the equation (probably not).
I'm guessing the #1 would be somewhere in 1987 or 1988???
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There are a couple recent songs that had limited releases on both 7" and cassette single. For instance, "Watermelon Sugar" by Harry Styles and "Butter" by BTS. But if they mean songs pre-digital era, I think looking in '87 or '88 sounds about right. There might have also been some vinyl-only releases in 1989, but I don't know about #1 hits.
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O.K., after giving it a little more thought, I don't remember seeing a cassette single on Bob Seger's
"Shakedown". That hit #1 on August 1, 1987. See if anyone can come up with a later #1 that didn't issue a
cassette single. I was not a fan of cassette singles, so there. -Bill.
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ChicagoBill wrote:
O.K., after giving it a little more
thought, I don't remember seeing a cassette single on Bob
Seger's
"Shakedown". That hit #1 on August 1, 1987. See if anyone
can come up with a later #1 that didn't issue a
cassette single. I was not a fan of cassette singles, so
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There was a cassette single for "Shakedown", I have it
myself. A few #1's down the line, "La Bamba" by Los Lobos
I don't think had one. The one after that, MJ/Siedah
Garrett's "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" didn't have one,
either as I recall (although there was a 3 inch CD Single
issued for it several months after it had already fallen
off the chart.
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Billboard started marking the Hot 100 with (C) for
cassette singles in mid-1988, and scanning through the
remainder of 1988 and 1989, it looks like everything had a
cassette single available, so safe to say the last mass
market vinyl-only #1 came out before then.
And there's another technicality to add to Aaron's
examples from the 2020s, I'd also consider 45s from the
Hot 100's "post-single" era starting in 1998. Lots of
hits weren't available commercially on CD/cassette but
were available on vinyl. While these 45s were mainly for
jukebox operators, I'd argue they were "commercial" --
e.g., UPCs, some retail availability, etc. Rob Thomas'
"Lonely No More" might be the last example of a #1 before
the majors stopped supplying jukeboxes.
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Good point, Eric. Regarding "Lonely No More," though, it only went to #1 on some of the sub-charts, like Hot AC. It peaked at #6 on the Hot 100.
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Unless we count a video cd as a format, Cutting Crew’s I Just Died In Your
Arms is the last US 45 only number one. There are several chart toppers
after that only made it to vinyl but also had commercial 12’ available. The
last one I noticed to not have a cassette single but 7 & 12 inch releases is
Tiffany’s I Think We’re Alone Now.
The first chart topper that had a cassette single since the Go Go’s nor
Bryan Adams made the top let alone the top 5 appears to be With Or
Without You by U2
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aaronk wrote:
Good point, Eric. Regarding "Lonely No
More," though, it only went to #1 on some of the sub-charts,
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You're right - I was looking at the wrong list. Maybe the
latest, then, is Usher's "Burn"? Or Jennifer Lopez "I'm
Real"?
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Thanks for all the input! I should've mentioned that they were mainly looking 1980s, or more precisely, before they
started listing configurations on the Hot 100.
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If what I'm seeing on Discogs is correct, the last US Hot 100 #1 that had no commercially available maxi-single or other commercially available format was MJ "I Just Can't Stop Loving You." (I don't count the commercial
CD3 because my recollection is that it didn't come out until around the time that "Dirty Diana" came out.)
Unless... you count the Spanish version, "Todo Mi Amor Eres Tu," which was released in America on a cassingle backed with the English version. So I suppose a case could be made that the Spanish/English cassingle makes it ineligible.
If that does make it ineligible, then it's "I Just Died in Your Arms Tonight." Great note about the video CD for that song, Glen, but it looks like that was only issued promotionally.
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That would be CD Video, not Video CD.
CD Video was Philips' failed attempt to turn LaserDisc into a music video format in 1987. The discs were gold colored and featured an audio-only CD portion and an analog video portion playable on a LaserDisc player. Smaller CD Video discs could only fit a few minutes of video, just enough for a single music video, while larger ones could fit an entire movie.
Video CD was introduced in 1993 and used MPEG compression to fit an hour of "VHS-quality" digital video on a disc that was physically identical to a CD, and could also contain CD-audio tracks. It was most popular in Asia and lasted as a video format there until the 2010s.
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Hello VWestlife
Thanks for the format rundown on Phillips CD Video and the
later Video CD. Any idea how Phillips CDI disc fit in the
timeline. I am thinking I bought my Phillipa CDI player and
software late 1988 or early 1989.
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Discogs lists a cassette single of "(I Just) Died In Your Arms Tonight" in 1987 although they label it as a "reissue."
They also list a mini CD single in 1988.
I'd offer Falco's "Rock Me Amadeus" as a possible contender, only having a cassette single listed in Discogs in New Zealand and Peru.
Released in 1985, it hit #1 on March 29, 1986.
Your thoughts?
Edited by NightAire on 15 April 2023 at 1:10am
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NightAire wrote:
Discogs lists a cassette single of "(I Just) Died In Your Arms Tonight" in 1987 although they label it as a "reissue."
They also list a mini CD single in 1988.
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The cassette is definitely a reissue as it says "BackTrax" on the cover. It's from the BackTrax reissue series.
That 1988 mini CD single wasn't issued in America, and I think he's looking for American issues only, since he's referring to the Hot 100.
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I remember buying ONE cassette single right when it came out - Whitney
Houston's "Didn't We Almost Have It All". It was one of the first (I think). So
since that was '87, I'd say the answer definitely lies in a 1987 single. I had
Whitney's CD, but I bought this anyway, not with the intention of ever playing it
(though it was my #1 song of 1987), but because I thought it would be a
quickly fading fad. I was obviously wrong about that :)
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EdisonLite wrote:
I had Whitney's CD, but I bought this anyway, not with the intention of
ever playing it (though it was my #1 song of 1987), but because I
thought it would be a quickly fading fad. I was obviously wrong about that
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LOL. Yeah... I thought that about this thing a coworker told me about in
1998 or so where you could buy books on the Internet and have them
delivered to your house. I thought it was a dumb idea that would never
catch on. I believe the name of the company was Amazon or something like
that. (I also remember a friend telling me DVDs would never catch on.)
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